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YCQM - Gov. Peter Shumlin - Jan. 8, 2012

January 8, 2012 -- Gov. Peter Shumlin, D-Vermont, joins Kristin Carlson and Darren Perron to discuss the 2012 legislative session and the governor's agenda.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I'M DARREN PERRON.

>> AND I'M KRISTIN CARLSON.

>> THE GOVERNOR GAVE THE STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS ON THURSDAY, AND TROPICAL STORM IRENE WAS THE MAIN TOPIC.

>> TODAY I REPORT TO YOU ON THE STATE OF THE GREATEST STATE IN THE NATION, ONE THAT HAS DEMONSTRATED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST YEAR WHAT IT MEANS TO BE UNITED AS ONE COMMUNITY. TO OVERCOME TRAGEDY. IN THE WAKE OF A DEEP RECESSION, TWO SPRING STORMS, AND A TROPICAL STORM THAT DEVASTATED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND EXACTED AN UNIMAGINABLE TOLL ON THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF VERMONTERS, I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT EXAGGERATION THE STATE OF OUR STATE IS STRONG, VERMONT STRONG.

>> AND GOVERNOR SHUMLIN JOINS US NOW THIS MORNING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> IREEEN WAS CLEARLY A LARGE PART OF YOUR SPEECH. SIX OF THE 10 PAGES OF IT WERE DEVOTED TO IT.

>> YOU KNOW, IT REALLY HAS IMPACTED EVERY SINGLE HAVE THER, AND FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T IMPACTED BY THE STORM, WE'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE DEVASTATION, THE LOSS, THE TRAGEDY THAT CAME TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS. I JUST THINK IT'S AN EXAMPLE, AND THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A BETTER ONE, OF HOW TO RESPOND TO A TRAGIC SITUATION AND TURN IT INTO AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S BROUGHT VERMONTERS TOGETHER, GENEROSITY HAS BEEN UNPRECEDENTED BY PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE, AND WE'RE BOUND AND DETERMINED TO REBUILD VERMONT BETTER THAN THE WAY IRE EVEN FOUND US -- IRENE FOUND US.

>> I'M SURE YOU'RE GETTING REACTION ALREADY. I GOT QUITE A REACTION FROM LAWMAKERS AS WELL. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM ALL SIDES OF THE AISLE, THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE A PEP RALLY, AND VERY, VERY THIN ON DETAILS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK IT WAS. WE HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR. IN FOUR MONTHS, WE REBUILT 34 MILES OF ROADS, DAMAGED BRIDGES, WE HAD FOLKS WHO LOST EVERYTHING, WE'VE GOTTEN THEM INTO HOUSING. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK ON THEIR FEET TO CLOSE THE GAP OF THE INADEQUATE FUNDS THE GOVERNMENT GIVES THEM, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THERE IS A VERMONTER WHO DOESN'T FEEL THAT, NO. 1, THIS REALLY MATTERS. WITH WE HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF, AND A LOT MORE WORK TO DO. AND AS WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE TOUGHEST RECESSION IN HISTORY, IF WE CAN USE THIS ABILITY TO GET THINGS DONE TO DELIVER ON THE PROMISE OF HIGH-SPEED INTERNET ACCESS TO BY 2013, GET HEALTHCARE COSTS UNDER CONTROL, HAVE A FAIR TAX POLICY, WE'RE GOING TO GROW JOBS AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. YOU CAN TAKE WHAT THIS STATE HAS DONE, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHING THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, AND APPLY IT WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GO, IN TERMS OF JOB CREATION IN THIS TOUGH RECESSION.

>> YOU MENTION THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT VERMONTERS GET AND THE GOVERNMENT MONEY. YOU RECOGNIZED THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS. SHOULD THE STATE GET INVOLVED? THERE IS A IDEA TO RAISE GAS TAXES.

>> I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT IDEA. I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO FIND COMMON GROUND. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES, AND AS YOU KNOW, NEALE HAS DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB WORKING WITH US. WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH EVERY COMMUNITY, STATE GOVERNMENT UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL RECOVERY IS LOCAL, THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM TO HELP THE BUSINESSES, THE RESIDENTS, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE GET PUT BACK TOGETHER. WE DON'T NEED GAS TAXES TO GET IT DONE FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT OUR EXTRAORDINARY CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION GOT US THE FEDERAL MONEY RENEED TO REBUILD RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME FINANCIAL SACRIFICE BY VERMONTERS, BUT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE A BUDGET NEXT WEEK THAT WILL WILL LEAVE GAS TAXES RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.

>> REPUBLICANS FOR THE MOST PART HAD EXPRESSED THAT THEY APPRECIATED YOUR STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY THE PART APPLAUDING VERMONTERS WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD DURING THIS RECOVERY, BUT THEY'VE QUESTIONED YOU AND YOUR PROMISE NOT TO RAISE BROAD-BASED TAXES. LET'S LISTEN IN TO RANDY BROCK.

>> DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS, WATCH WHAT HE DOES. IF YOU RECALL, THE SAID THE SAME THING LAST YEAR AND THEN PROPOSED RAISING A NEW TAX ON DENTISTS THAT WAS 3% ON DENTAL CARE.

>> THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T SPEAK MUCH ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE BILL. WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR, AND IF THE OUTCOME IS AN EMPLOYMENT TAX, IN MY MIND, THAT'S A BROAD-BASED TAX.

>> THAT'S RANDY BROCK, RUNNING GO -- FOR GOVERNOR. HOW DO YOU RESPOND.

>> IN I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THEM. I THINK YOU SHOULD WATCH WHAT EVERY POLITICIAN DOES, NOT WHAT THEY SAY. I HAVE NOT RAISED BROAD-BASED TAXES. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO AVOID THAT. WE CLOSED THE BUDGET GAP LAST YEAR, AND I MADE VERY CLEAR THEN THAT VERMONT'S BIGGEST PROBLEM IS NOT THAT OUR TAXES ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH, IT'S THAT MOST VERMONTERS FEEL THEY'RE TOO HIGH. I AGREE WITH THEM. AND WE DIDN'T RAISE EVEN THE TAX THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO, THE TAX ON DENTISTS OR WHATEVER HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I DIDN'T PROPOSE A TAX ON DENTISTS. WHAT WE PROPOSED -- IT NEVER BECAME LAW -- I PROPOSED THAT WE GET THE DENTISTS WHO ARE SERVING LOW-INCOME VERMONTERS MORE REIMBURSEMENT AND ASK THOSE WHO WERE NOT SERVING LOW-INCOME CLIENTS TO HELP US DRAW DOWN DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THOSE. THAT'S NOT A BROAD-BASED TAX.

>> WHEN YOU USE THE TERM "BROAD-BASED TAX", TELL US WHAT YOU MEAN. IS -- DOES THAT OPEN THE DOOR TO A VERY TARGETED TAX, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE DENTAL TAX THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH.

>> BOTH MYSELF, GOVERNOR DOUGLAS, GOVERNOR DEAN, AND OTHERS WHO AGREED WITH ME ON BROAD-BASED TAXES, NOT RAISING THEM UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO -- USED THE FEDERAL HEALTHCARE FINANCE SYSTEM, WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARY COMPLEX, TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL DOLLARS SO WE COULD BRING MORE DOLLARS TO OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. EVERY GOVERNOR HAS USED THAT TECHNIQUE. I DO THAT, TOO. A BROAD-BASED TAX IN MY VIEW IS INCOME TAXES, SALES TAXES, ROOMS AND MEALS TAXES, TAXES WE ALL PAY ALL THE TIME. AND I DO FEEL WHILE I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR INCOME TAX, WE ASK OUR WEALTHIEST TO PAY MORE, AND I BELIEVE OUR TAX SYSTEM IS FAIR, IT'S PROGRESSIVE, AND WE DO NOT NEED TO RAISE BROAD-BASED TAXES TO SOLVE OUR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, NOR SHOULD WE, AND WE WON'T.

>> THAT STATEMENT OPENS THE DOOR FOR OTHER TAXES. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND?

>> NO, I DON'T. AND I DON'T THINK I'VE OPENED THE DOOR. I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR.

>> NO NEW BROAD-BASED TAXES?

>> YOU GET INTO PARSING WORDS ABOUT WHAT A TAX IS. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CALL THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDER ASSESSMENT A TAX, YES, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE FEDERAL HEALTHCARE DOLLARS TO PAY OUR HEALTHCARE BILL. THAT'S WHAT GOVERNORS DO. I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE GO INTO WHAT IS A FRAGILE RECOVERY, I'M OUT MEETING WITH BUSINESSES EVERY DAY, AND THINGS ARE STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE BETTER FOR VERMONTERS, AS I MENTIONED IN THE SPEECH, THE 4TH LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE PAST YEAR. VERMONT GREW JOBS AT 62% MORE JOBS THAN WE HAD A YEAR AGO, HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE NATION. UNEMPLOYMENT MOVED DOWN. WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE'RE MAKING TOUGH CHOICES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IF WE CONTINUE TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET WITHOUT RAISING BROAD-BASED TAXES, MATCH MONTPELIER'S APPETITE FOR SPENDING WITH OUR BUDGET, WE'LL BE BALANCEED.

>> YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT. YOU HAD A CANDID MOMENT IN YOUR SPEECH, ONE OR TWO. ONE WAS WHEN YOU SAID, CHRIS PIERSON, IT MUST BE YOUR BIRTHDAY, AND IT WAS. HE IS THE PROGRESSIVE LEADER IN THE VERMONT HOUSE, AND HE HAS MADE IT VERY PUBLIC THAT HE'S GOING TO LEAD THE CHARGE TO RAISE TAXES. HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE LIBERAL MEMBERS OF YOUR PARTY AND THE PROGRESSIVES WHO ARE SAYING NOW IS THE TIME, WE'VE MADE CUTS, THERE IS A BUDGET DEFICIT OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

>> I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE BUDGET WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE THIS WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DELIVER A BALANCED BUDGET BY MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE, BEING SMART WITH TAXPAYERS MONEY. THE STORY OF IREEEN WAS IF WE CAN REBUILD ALL THESE MILES OF ROAD AND REBUILD BRIDGES, WE CAN DELIVER BETTER SERVICES TO TAX PAYERS FOR LESS. WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER A BUDGET THAT DOESN'T HARM OUR MOST VULNERABLE. I LED THE CHARGE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CLOSED THE GAP BETWEEN THE INADEQUATE MONEY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO ASSESS TO KEEP VERMONTERS WARM IN THEIR HOMES. WE'RE NOT LETTING THEM FREEZE IN THEIR HOMES. WE DON'T NEED TO RAISE BROAD-BASED TAXES TO MAKE MONTPELIER MORE ACCOUNTABLE. THERE'S A ROAD MAP TO HOW VERMONT CAN CONTINUE WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, WHERE WE BREAK DOWN SILOS, REBUILD THE STATE THAN THE WAY IRENE FOUND US, AND GET A BETTER BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

>> WE JUST SAW VIDEO OF ROADS BEING REPAIRED HERE POST IRENE, AND DURING THAT PROCESS, WE STREAMLINED, GOT RID OF THE RED TAPE. IS THIS THE WAY FORWARD? IS THIS HOW WE DO IT IN A LESS EXPENSIVE WAY?

>> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE DID IN THE MOMENT OF CRISIS WAS WE TOOK THE FOLKS WHO ARE ENGINEERS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE RIGHTLY OUT THERE PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, WE PUT THEM TOGETHER ON THE JOB, AND THEY RODE OUT THERE, MAKING THE DECISIONS ON THE ROADS INSTEAD OF BUNKERED UP IN THEIR OFFICES. IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE CAN MAKE GREAT THINGS HAPPEN IN STATE GOVERNMENT.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE FUTURE? YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS IDEA OF BREAKING DOWN SILOS, HAVING PARTNERS WORK TOGETHER, WHICH WOULD MEAN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION PERHAPS. ARE YOU GOING BACK WITH 1600 STATE WORKERS?

>> I THINK THERE ARE TWO JUDGMENTS ON THE FUTURE OF THE STATE COMPLEX. AS I'VE SAID ABOUT THE STATE HOSPITAL, WITH ALL THE DEVASTATION WE'VE SEEN WITH IRENE, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD BETTER AND SMARTER THAN THE WAY IRENE FOUND US. WITH THE STATE COMPLEX, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME IS THE EXTRAORDINARY INEFFICIENCY OF THE WORKFORCE IN STATE GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. THEY'RE SCATTERED ALL OVER WASHINGTON COUNTY, WITH SOME UP IN CHITANDEN COUNTY. THAT'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO RUN A RAILROAD. LET'S KEEP WATERBURY STRONG. WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR RESPONSIBILITY OF KEEPING A VITAL BUSINESS IN WATERBURY. WE WOULD LOOK MIGHTY FOOLISH IF WE SPENT $50, $60 MILLION BUCKS REBUILDING WATERBURY AND IT FELL AGAIN NEXT SPRING OR THE SPRING AFTER, AND WE'RE BACK HERE ALL OVER AGAIN. HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT THAT COMPLEX, WHICH WAS FLOODED, DOESN'T FLOOD AGAIN. IS THERE A WAY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM? IF THE ANSWER IS "YES," WHAT MAKES MOST SENSE FOR TAXPAYERS? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO GO TO AN OLD BUILDING, TEAR DOWN, BUILD NEW TO KEEP THE WATER OUT, OR IS THERE BETTER BANG FOR THE BUCK BY BUILDING A CLEAN, ENERGY-EFFICIENT COMPLEX IN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T FLOOD? I THINK WE NEED THE NUMBERS. THEY WILL HELP US. WILL IT COST TWICE AS MUCH TO DO ONE THAN THE OTHER? SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD LOOK AT TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND UNIFY THE STATE WORKFORCE. WE SHOULD TAKE THE STATE EMPLOYEES IN CHITTENDEN COUNTY AND PUT US IN CENTRAL VERMONT IN WATERBURY OR SOME OTHER LOCATION AS CENTRAL AS WE CAN BE.

>> SOUNDS LIKE A STEEP BATTLE FOR WATERBURY TO GET THE COMPLEX BACK.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S STEEP, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A FOOLISH DECISION, WHICH WOULD BE TO PRETEND IT NEVER FLOODED, REBUILD, AND INVEST 50, 60 MILLION BUCKS, AND NOT HAVE A PLAN THAT WILL KEEP IT FROM FLOODING AGAIN.

>> DO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHEN THE NUMBERS WILL COME IN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT?

>> BEING IN FLUX IS A CHALLENGE. THE STATE EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE. SO MANY OF THEM GOT MOVED TO NEW LOCATIONS, AND THEY'RE NOT IDEAL LOCATIONS IN MANY CASES. I'M GRATEFUL TO THEM. THAT SAID, WE HAVE ASKED ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS TO GET BACK TO US I HOPE IN THE NEXT EIGHT TO 12 WEEKS, WITH NUMBERS, SO WE HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT ACTIONS ARE, AND HOW TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR TAXPAYERS AS WELL AS HAVE A SMART, GREEN, CLEAN WORK FORCE THAT SERVES VERMONT FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS.

>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF BREAK NICE. OH... OH! OH! RED! RED! RED! YES! YES! COME ON! OH. NO! OH... BUMMER. [CHILDREN SHOUTING] HOOPS? YEAH. SURE. SURE. Announcer: MOMS EVERYWHERE ARE FINDING WAYS TO KEEP KIDS ACTIVE AND HEALTHY. WORKS EVERY TIME. Announcer: GET IDEAS. GET INVOLVED. GET GOING AT LETSMOVE.GOV.

>> WE'RE BACK WITH GOVERNOR PETER SHUMLIN. DURING THE STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH, IT'S NO SECRET IT'S ONE OF YOUR PROPERTIES IS TO PROVIDE HIGH-SPEED INTERNET ACROSS VERMONT. WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS?

>> MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. A YEAR AGO IT ASTOUNDED ME. FIRST, WE ALL KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE IN AN UNUSUAL PART OF VERMONT THARKS WE'VE GOT TO CONNECT UP, THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MANY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DISCONNECTED, AND WE CAN'T COMPETE FOR JOBS UNLESS WE'RE CONNECTED. WA WE FOUND IS THAT WE, THANKS TO OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, WE'VE GOT AN UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF STIMULUS MONEY TO HELP US CONNECT. THERE IS ABOUT $200 MILLION TO BUILD THE FIRST SMART SYSTEM, SAT THE SAME TIME THAT OUR PRIVATE TELECOM PROVIDERS GOT A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO PROVIDE INTERNET TO UNDERSERVED VERMONT. WE FOUND OUT THE TWO WEREN'T TALKING TO EACH OTHER, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE SEPARATE TECHNOLOGY TO GET THE JOBS DONE. WE BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER. THEY'VE BEEN TERRIFIC. WE GOT THEM ACTUALLY COOPERATING SO THAT -- THE PLAN IS SIMPLE: WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE FIBER AS DEEP AND WIDE AS WE CAN AND USE A WIRELESS CANOPY TO CLOSE THE GAPS. THEY'RE USING THE SAME TECHNOLOGY, ITS INTEGRATED, WE GOT THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROVE A STREAMLINED PERMITTING PROCESS SO WE CAN GET THE TOWERS UP. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGH-SPEED INTERNET ACCESS TO EVERY HOME BY THE END OF 2013. I KEEP SAYING, IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. IT'S GOING TO HELP US GROW JOBS AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE BEHIND BOSNIA, WE'RE BEHIND VIETNAM, WE'RE BEHIND CAMBODIA, NOT TO MENTION THE OTHER 49 STATES. WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS DONE.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT ENERGY, SOMETHING ELSE YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR SPEECH BRIEFLY. WILL WE SEE MORE OF A FOCUS IN YOUR BUDGET ADDRESS?

>> WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS GOAL OF BUMPING UP THE STATE'S PORTFOLIO, BUT WE'RE TALKING DECADES AND DECADES DOWN THE ROAD. YOU WILL BE QUIET AN OLDER GENTLEMAN.

>> I HAVE GOOD GENES.

>> WHY SUCH A PROTRACTED PROGRAM? I HAVE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE THAT ARE FRUSTRATED WITH YOUR TIME LINE THAT'S 40 YEARS OUT.

>> WE HAVE TO BALANCE OUR ACCOUNTABLE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AFFORDABLE ELECTRIC RATES. I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE'VE BUILT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS MORE THAN WE HAVE IN OUR HISTORY. I CLIPPED THE RIBBON ON THE WIND PROJECT, WE ARE NOW IN ANOTHER PROJECT, WE'VE BEEN OPENING UP MANY MAJOR SOLAR FIELDS, FARMS, RIGHT HERE IN CHITTENDEN COUNTY, WE DID TWO OR THREE IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'RE FINALLY GETTING SMALL HYDRO IN VERMONT, MY ARGUMENT IS WE'VE GOT TO HARNESS THE WIND, THE SUN, THE FIELD AND THE WOODS, AS WE MOVE FROM THE EXPENSIVE AND POLLUTING COSTS OF OIL, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY, BUT WE HAVE FIND THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE NOT RENEWABLES AND ENSURING THAT ELECTRIC RATES DON'T GO UP HIGHER THAN OUR NEIGHBORS. WE THINK WE'VE FOUND THE BALANCE.

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA WINS THE ELECTION, IF HE OFFERED YOU A JOB IN WASHINGTON, WOULD YOU GO?

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT. I'M A VERMONTER! I WOULD BE MISERABLE. I'M A COUNTRY BOY.

>> YOU AND GOVERNOR DOUGLAS SAID THE SAME THING.

>> YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING: THERE WAS A GROUP OF PROTESTERS OUTSIDE THE STATE HOUSE DURING YOUR STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS, AND THEY WERE SAYING, BASICALLY, THAT THE GOVERNOR IS IN THE POCKET WITH GMP AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE PUSHING THIS LOWELL PROJECT. HOW DO YOU RESPOND, WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT'S MOVING TOO QUICKLY?

>> I'M IN THE POCKET OF THE ENERGY COMPANY AND IN MAKING SURE THAT WE REDUCE OUR CLIMB AT-CHANGE IMPACT ON THE PLANET FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND FUTURE VERMONTERS. IF I'VE LEARNED ANYTHING IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, IS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL AND IT'S GOING TO START TO AFFECT OUR LIVES RIGHT AWAY. I'VE MANAGED FOUR MAJOR STORMS. THE RECORD SNOWFALL. THE APRIL AND MAY FLOODS. LAKE CHAMPLAIN BROKE ALL RECORDS. CENTRAL VERMONT, HUGE DEVASTATION, FEDERAL HELP. THEN IRENE. THE LESSON FOR US IS THAT THIS IS HERE TO STAY. THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF RAIN, 11, 1 INCHES, IS BEING DUMPED ON VERMONT IN 12 HOURS IS CLIMATE CHANGE. I'M IN THE POCKET OF ANYBODY WHO CAN HELP US GET OFF OUR ADDICTION TO OIL, SO THAT OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS HAVE A PLANET THEY CAN ENJOY.

>> YOU MENTION THAT YOU'VE LEARNED IN THE LAST YEAR. I'M SURE YOU WORKED WITH THE LEGISLATURE, A LOT WAS MADE OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SENATE AND YOUR GETTING YOUR WAY OVER JOHN CAMPBELL. SOME PEOPLE THEORIZE YOU WOULD HAVE A HARDER TIME WORKING WITH DEMOCRATS THIS SESSION THAN REPUBLICANS.

>> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY, IF -- I WISH I HAD THE POWER IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT

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