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You Can Quote Me -- July 6, 2014 -- Vt. Fish & Wildlife Commissioner Louis Porter and Wildlife Director Mark Scott join Darren Perron to discuss changes to the deer herd and wildlife management issues.

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>>> THIS IS YOU CAN QUOTE ME.

>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

I'M DARREN PERRON AN UPDATE ON

THE TOPICS WE WILL COVER THIS

MORNING WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE

COMMISSIONER LOUIS PORTER.

AND MARK SCOTT THANK YOU FOR

JOINING US THIS MORNING.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> LET'S BEGIN TO WHAT COULD BE

CHANGES TO THE HUNT FLT WHAT ARE

YOU LOOKING AT?

>> WE STARTED AT LOOKING AT ALL

ELEMENTS OF DEER MANAGEMENT AND

TALKING TO HUNTERS ABOUT THE

POPULATION AND CHANGES THAT THEY

WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MIGHT

IMPROVE THE HUNT AND THERE WILL

BE MORE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND

REALLY, A BROAD SPECTRUM OF

DIFFERENT CHANGES OR DIFFERENT

THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OR

CHANGES IN PERHAPS ALLOWS

CHANGES IN POTENTIALLY IN WHAT

DATES DIFFERENT SEASONS FALL ON

AND GET A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT

THE HERD WHICH HASN'T BEEN DONE

FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> IS THE IDEA TO MANAGE THE

HERD?

>> OUR DEER HERD IS VERY GOOD

RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A HEALTHY HERD.

THE BODY WEIGHTS ARE GOOD.

WE ARE GETTING A GOOD NUMBER OF

FAWNS REPRODUCED AND THE BUCKS

ARE IN ABOUT SHAPE.

IT IS BACK TO THE HUNTERS.

WE ARE GETTING INTERESTS EVERY

MONTH PETITIONS ARE BEING PUT

FORTH TO CONSIDER THINGS IN THE

STATE.

WE ARE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER

THINGS IN A PRO PROPOSAL AND

WE'LL DO A PUBLIC PROCESS AND WE

HAVE NEVER SAID LET'S TAKE A BIG

STEP BACK.

THAT IS PART OF THE PICTURE.

I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO

ALONG AND USE THAT WORD DEER AND

YOU GET A DIFFERENT REACTION FOR

PEOPLE.

THIS IS EXCITING FOR THE

DEPARTMENT AND DEER HUNTERS IN

THE STATE OF VERMONT.

AND WE HAVE NEVER LOOKED AT IT

COMHENSIVELY.

>> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?

>> IT RANGES ACROSS THE BOARD

AND A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS

PEOPLE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHT.

GOING TO A ONE BUCK LIMIT FOR

RIVAL OR FIREARMS AND YOU FIND A

LOT OF DEER $0000 HUNTERS WHO MIGHT

LIKE THAT IDEA.

AND THOSE WHO MIGHT HAVE

QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, SO IT IS A

REALLY ENGAGED GROUP OF FOLKS AS

YOU KNOW AND THEY KNOW A LOT

ABOUT DEER AND DEER POPULATIONS

AND HABITAT.

>> WE HAVE PROBABLY 72,000 DEER

HUNTERS IN THE STATE OF VERMONT.

MOST OF THOSE BUYING LICENSES TO

HUNT BEAR AND THE INTERESTING

FACT IS MOST OF THEM ARE

SATISFIED.

70% OR MORE, THAT IS REMARKABLE

TO ME BEING WITH THE DEPARTMENT

FOR A LONG TIME FLT.

THEY ARE TELLING US THEY WOULD

LIKE TO SEE BIGGER BUCKS IN THE

LANDSCAPE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

VERMONT IS NOT A HUGE STATE.

IT IS NOT ILLINOIS OR OHIO.

IT IS NOT ONE OF THE COMMUNITY

PROVINCES BUT WE ARE A SPECIAL

STATE TOO.

WE CAN PROBABLY HOLD 20,000

BUCKS.

AND MANY PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TO SEE

THE DOE, SO HOW DO WE DISTRIBUTE

THAT BUCK HARVEST FAIRLY AMONG

PEOPLE?

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE BIGGER

BUCKS ON THE LANDSCAPE.

THAT MIGHT MEAN CUTTING INTO THE

NUMBER OF BUCKS THAT ARE SHOT OR

SOMEHOW REDUCING THE PRESSURE.

IT IS HEAVILY WOODED AND THE

STATE RECEIVES HEAVY PRESSURE.

WE REGULATE THE SEASON DATES AND

HOW MANY PERMITS WE ISSUE.

WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO IT

IS HOW WE GET THERE IS THE

CHALLENGE.

>> IS PART OF THE PLAN?

COULD IT BE DIVIDED UP IN THE

NORTHEAST CORRIDOR BUCKS COULD

BE TAKEN THERE VERSUS ATTISON

COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE?

>> YES, NUMBERS OF DEER.

SIZES OF DEER.

HOW MANY ARE HARVESTED EVERY

YEAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE GOING

TO LOOK AT IS THAT APPROACH

DEPENDING ON THE NUMBERS OF DEER

AND THE HUNTING PRESSURE WE

MIGHT DO DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT

AND DIFFERENT AREAS.

>> I KNOW THESE CONVERSATIONS

ARE STILL ONGOING.

YOU DID AND ONLINE SURVEY AS

WELL, IF YOU WERE TO SAY TO THE

DEERARER HUNTERS AT HOME THIS

MORNING.

WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE

CHANGES LOOKING LIKE?

>> WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO

DO.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TO INTERNALLY

FLUSH THINGS OUT.

I THINK THE CHALLENGE WILL BE

FOR US, AND THIS IS THE BEST I

CAN ANSWER, WE WANT TO MORE

FORWARD TO CREATE MORE LARGER

AND OLDER BUCKS ON THE LANDSCAPE

TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

LOWER THE PRESSURE THAT THE

CURRENT BUCKS ARE DOING THAT.

AND THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN

DO THAT.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT

THE FIREARM OPPORTUNITY.

A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HUNT THEY ARE

HUNTING DURING THE WEEKENDS AND

THEY WORK DURING THE WEEK.

WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY THAT

TIME IN THE WOODS BECAUSE WE

KNOW FROM OTHER SURVEYS IN THE

WOODS.

THEY WANT TO BE WITH FAMILY AND

FRIENDS IN THE WOODS.

BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET IT

SO THAT HUNTING IS COMPLICATED.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS CHANGED SOME

OF ITS FISHING REGULATIONS IN

THE STATE OF VERMONT SO THAT IT

IS NOT SO COMPLICATED.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE HUNTERS

IN A SITUATION THAT THEY LEAVE

THEIR CAR AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING

TO GO HUNT.

IT IS GOING TO BE A BALANCE FOR

US.

WE INTEND TO MOVE FORWARD

WORKING WITH THE BOARD TO DO THE

BEST WE CAN GIVEN THEIR INPUT.

I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS DONE IN

SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

>> WE HAVE A LOT MORE TIME AND

WE NEED PEOPLE TALKING TO US.

>> THERE ARE TWO CRUCIAL

ELEMENTS IN A DECISION LIKE

THIS.

ONE IS THE SCIENCE OF WHAT THE

DEER HERD LOOKS LIKE IN THE

STATE.

WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT.

THE STATISTICS OF WHERE THE DEER

ARE AND THE OTHER PART WE DON'T

HAVE THAT PART YET, WE HAVE SOME

OF IT BUT HAVE MORE TO DO IN

TERMS OF WHAT LAND OWNERS WANT

TO SEE.

>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW

HEALTHY THE DEER HERD IS AND HOW

THINGS LOOK GOOD OUT THERE.

HOW IS THAT DETERMINED?

WHAT KIND OF SCIENCE IS DONE TO

ENSURE THAT THE HERD IS HEALTHY?

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING THESE

CHECK STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE

STATE OF VERMONT AND THEY DO

THEM AND PUT THEM IN LOCATIONS

WHERE THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST

NUMBER OF DEER POSSIBLE.

THEY PUT THEM WHERE THE YOUTH

ARE AND WE'VE GOT MAYBE 25, 26

SCIENTISTS IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

AND IN VERMONT WE HAVE A

MANDATORY REPORTING SYSTEM SO

EVERY DEER THAT IS TAKEN, AND

OUR GAME WARDEN, THE DATA

ENABLES US TO HAVE GOOD

CONFIDENCE THAT LEADS TO HEALTH

AND ABUNDANCE IN VERMONT.

MOST OF VERMONT IS PUBLIC LAND.

WE HAVE TO ABOUT FLEXIBLE.

WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANY

TRACKING INFORMATION WITHOUT

BEING SENSITIVE TO THE LAND

OWNERS.

AND THEY NEED THE DEER HUNTERS

TO BALANCE THE DEER HERD.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT MOOSE

HUNTING.

>> WE EXTENDED THE DATE EARLIER

THIS YEAR BY A MONTH OR SO TO

GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO PLAN THEIR

HUNTS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE

VACATION TIME.

AND WE FELT LIKE PEOPLE MAYBE

DIDN'T -- HADN'T GOTTEN THE WORD

ENOUGH.

THE DRAWING WILL STILL BE AT THE

SAME TIME.

BUT WHEN THE DEADLINE TO APPLY

BACK A WEEK TO GET THE WORD OUT

MORE WE SENT CARDS TO PREVIOUS

APPLICANTS AND OTHERS.

IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOUR

LIKELIHOOD OF WINNING YOUR

POINTS OVER THE YEARS AS YOU

APPLY.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE

THE CHANCE NOT TO LOSE THOSE

POINTS THAT THEY HAVE

ACCUMULATED.

>> AND THERE IS THE AUCTION?

>> IT GIVES PEOPLE ANOTHER

OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO DO A

SILENT CLOSED BID ON THAT.

THE LOTTERY, THE COMMISSIONER

CALLED IT CHRISTMAS IN JULY.

IT HAPPENED JULY 17th.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE UNTIL AUGUST 14th TO

SUBMIT A SEALED BID.

THE MINIMUM IS $1500 YOU NEED TO

BID TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS

SILENT AUCTION AND THE

DEPARTMENT HAS THAT GOING TO THE

CONSERVEATION

CONSERVATION.

THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU HAD TO GO

OUT AND PAY FOR A TICKET

SOMEWHERE THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD

OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY IN A

STATE LIKE VERMONT TO MAKE A BID

ON THAT AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO

BE ONE OF THOSE TOP FIVE PEOPLE

WHO BID ON IT.

>> BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN

PROBABLY REMEMBER A WHILE BACK

WHEN THE MOOSE HUNT BEGAN HERE

IN VERMONT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

WERE NOT USED TO PEOPLE HUNTING

MOOSE.

WHAT IS THE POPULATION IN

VERMONT AND IS IT IN CHECK AT

THIS POINT?

>> LET ME TALK ABOUT THAT AND

I'LL ASK THE COMMISSIONER TO ADD

IN ON THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

WE HAVE 2,300 MOOSE IN THE STATE

RIGHT NOW.

OUR GOAL IS 3,000 MOOSE.

THE PERMITS THAT WE ARE ISSUING

IS 285 PERMITS AND WE HAVE A

LIMITED SEASON.

IT IS DESIGNED TO HARVEST 200

MOOSE IN THE LANDSCAPE.

WHAT THAT WILL DO IS ALLOWED

SLOW CONTROL OF GROWTH OF THE

HERD.

THE DEPARTMENT IN 2006, 2007

ISSUED A LOT OF PERMITS TO

REDUCE THE NUMBER OF MOOSE IN

THE STATE OF VERMONT.

SO, WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE

ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MOOSE

NUMBERS IN THE STATE.

BUT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE

IT SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF

MOOSE IN THE SPRING ON THE

HIGHWAY.

WE CAME UP WITH THE GOAL OF

3,000 MOOSE WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC

INVOLVEMENT IN 2010.

>> THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING

IS TICKS, THEY ARE DIFFERENT

THAN THE DEER TICK BUT THEY CAN

CAUSE DAMAGE AND MORTALITY TO

MOOSE AND THAT IS LIKELY TO HAVE

A CONNECTION TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE SEEM TO BE

FAIRING BETTER IN MAINE IS THAT

THEY WEREN'T QUITE AS DENSE IN

THE LANDSCAPE AS THEY WERE IN

OTHER STAITTES.

AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AS OF

OTHER WILDLIFE WE REALLY MANAGE

THE POPULATIONS CAREFULLY AND

WITH A LOT OF EFFORT AND THOUGHT

AND CARE INTO IT.

AND THE PRIMARY TOOL IS THE

HUNTING SEASON.

AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND THAT AND KNOW THAT IS

NEEDED.

>> AND ANOTHER POPULATION THAT

HAS BEEN DECIMATED IN THE STATE

OF VERMONT IS THE BAT POPULATION

BECAUSE OF WHITE NOSE SYNDROME.

ARE WE GETTING A HANDLE ON THIS

ILLNESS YET?

>> I WISH WE WERE.

BUT SOME OF OUR STAFF IN THE

DEPARTMENT, OUR LEAD SCIENTIST

THROUGHOUT THE NORTHEAST IS

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND SKIM

THE TIDE DIFFERENT RESEARCHERS

THROUGHOUT THE NORTHEAST ARE

TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

THE GOOD MOVES RIGHT NOW AND I

SAY THIS CAUTIOUSLY WE SEEM TO

BE SEEING A DRASTIC DROP IN THE

NUMBER OF BATS.

WE HAVE OUR FINGERS CROSSED.

THE BATS WHO HAVE MADE IT

THROUGH, MOST OF TEN WE FOUND

ONCE THE BAT GETS IT, IT IS

HISTORY.

WE CAN'T BRING THEM TO A VET AND

IF WE KNEW, WE COULD INJECT

MEDICINE BUT WE ARE SPENDING A

LOT OF EFFORT TRYING TO PROTECT

THEM.

THE STATE ALONE IS CONCERNED

ABOUT THE BATS.

THE PERCEPTION OF PEOPLE TOWARDS

BATS IN THE STATE OF VERMONT IS

AMAZING.

WHEN I GREW UP, I'M EMBARRASSED

TO SAY, WHEN WE SAW A BAT WE

KILLED IT.

IT WAS DIFFERENT.

BUT PEOPLE KNOW NOW THAT BATS

KILL INSECTS AND PEOPLE DO CARE

ABOUT WHILE LIFE IN THIS STATE.

>> IT IS SIGNIFICANT IF YOU

CONTINUE TO SEE THESE MASSIVE

BAT ANALYSES BUT THEY EFFECT THE

FOOD CHAIN IF YOU WILL?

>> IT IS A CONCERN TO US.

WE ARE CHARGED WITH PROTECTING

AND TAKING CARE OF GAME SPEAK

SEES AND OTHERS.

THE BIOLOGICAL EFFECT IS A BIG

CONCERN FOR US.

>> ANYTIME YOU LOSE AN SPECIES A

PLANT, ANIMAL, WE ARE AFFECTED.

>> WE HAVE UNWANTED GUESTS HERE

IN VERMONT HERE.

WHAT IS BEING DONE TO MANAGE THE

POPULATION OF LAMPRAY THAT

TARGET NATIVE FISH?

>> WE HAVE A PROGRAM FOR

CONTROLS.

THEY PUT IT IN QUEBEC AND THAT

PROGRAM SEEMS TO BE SHOWING GOOD

EFFECTS AND POPULATIONS OF FISH

THAT THEY PREY ON SEEM TO BE

GETTING BETTER AND THEY SEEM TO

BE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS IN THOSE

AREAS THAT PROGRAM IS RUN BY THE

US FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE

THERE.

AND ALSO NEW YORK STATES AS

WELL.

>> YOU PROBABLY HAVE QUITE A FEW

FISH STORIES TO TELL RIGHT?

>> YES, FOR FIVE YEARS.

>> YES, I DID.

>> WELL ANOTHER SPECIES WE DON'T

WANT TO SEE IS THE SPINY WATER

FLEE WHAT

FLEA WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT

THAT?

>> WE ARE HOPING TO AVOID IT'S

PRESENCE BUT IT LOOKS LIKELY

THAT IT WILL BE HERE.

ONE OF THE EFFECTS THAT IT HAS

IS ATTACHING TO FISHING LINES SO

IT CAN MAKE FISHING DIFFICULT IN

PLACES WHERE THERE ARE LARGE

NUMBERS.

>> DOES IT THREATEN FISH

POPULATIONS OR IS IT JUST AN

ANNOYANCE TO FISHERMEN?

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

I CAN TELL YOU ANYTIME YOU BRING

IN EXOTTIC THINGS IT CAN HAVE A

HUGE IMPACT ON THE SYSTEM.

WE SEE IT WITH HONEYSUCKLE AND

BUCKTHORT.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT GOES INTO THE

LAKE CHAMPLANE IT IS DIFFICULT

TO NOT GET INVASIVE.

OUR CHALLENGE WILL BE HOW DO WE

COME UP WITH MORE RESOURCES TO

HELP LAND OWNERS AND GIVE THEM

THE TOOLS AND BORDER THESE SHORE

LINES AND I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT

TOOK STEPS WE HAVE A HATCHERY

THAT WAS BUILT THAT WAS DESIGNED

TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE TROUT

NEEDS.

WE HAD TO CHANGE THE OPERATION

OF THAT.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO SPREAD WATER.

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BEING TREATED

TO OTHER PLACES IN THE STATE --

>> SOMETIMES YOU MAY NOT KNOW

UNTIL IT IS ESTABLISHED.

THAT IS THE SCARY PART TODAY.

WE'VE GOT TO BE ON GUARD.

>> ANOTHER COUPLE OF INVASIVE

THINGS THAT ARE THREATENING

FORESTS AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT

PART OF THAT DEPARTMENT HERE BUT

YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH THAT

DEPARTMENT AS WELL BECAUSE OF

THE ANIMALS THAT LIVE IN THE

FOREST AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

THE EMERALD ASH BORE BOTH

THREATENING FORESTS.

IT HAS BEEN FOUND OUT SIDE OF

THE BORDERS.

WHAT IS BEING DONE AND WHAT

IMPACT COULD THOSE TWO INSECTS

HAVE ON WILDLIFE FOR EXAMPLE?

>> AS YOU POINT OUT, WE WORK

WITH THE PARKS CLOSELY.

THE TWO DEPARTMENTS ARE LINKED.

YOU CAN'T HAVE FISH AND WILDLIFE

WITHOUT HABITAT SO WE ARE

CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE AS WELL.

THE HEALTH OF THE FOREST AND THE

HEALTH OF THE HABITAT AS WELL.

WE ARE CONCERNED AS A DEPARTMENT

THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF

STATE LAND.

THOSE SPECIES CAN HAVE A GREAT

IMPACT ON CHANGING THE HEALTH OF

THE FOREST.

>> THE STATE OF VERMONT ISN'T

GOING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.

WE NEED EVERYONE ONBOARD

HELPING.

AS YOU POINTED OUT, WHEN YOU PUT

YOUR BOAT IN THE LAKE YOU BRING

IT OUT AND CLEAN IT.

BUT IT IS THE EDUCATIONAL

OUTREACH.

THE PESTS THAT YOU NOTED, WE

REMIND PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

HUGE IMPACTS GETS US TO GET THAT

MAJOR INFORMATION OUT THERE.

WE TALKED AT THE BEGINNING OF

THE SHOW ABOUT THE WHITE TAIL

DEER.

HUGE, HUGE IMPACTS BUT TO THINGS

THAT PEOPLE VALUE IN THIS STATE.

>> BEARS HAVE BEEN IN THE NEWS

LATELY.

A LOT SPOTTED IN BACKYARDS.

WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE BE DOING TO

AVOID THEM IN THEIR BACKYARDS?

IS.

>> THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT

THING IS MAKE SURE YOU AREN'T

BRINGING THEM IN WITH FOOD.

WITH BIRD FEEDERS OR LOCAL FOOD

THAT THEY CAN GET TO, THAT IS

PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT

WE SEE.

WE SAY WE DON'T MANAGE WILDLIFE,

WE MANAGE PEOPLE AND THE

WILDLIFE DOES FINE.

THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST

THING AND IF THEY DO HAVE A BEAR

THEY CAN SCARE THEM AND GIVE

THEM NEGATIVE REINFORCEMENT

ABOUT BEING AROUND PEOPLE.

>> AS YOU KNOW, ALLEGATIONS OF A

BEAR ATTACK TURNED INTO BE A

DRUG HALLUCINATION BUT AREN'T

THEY RARE?

>> YES, WE KNOW WE HAVE GOOD

INFORMATION OF THE LAST BEAR

ATTACK.

THE HOMEOWNER WAS FEEDING THE

BEAR.

AND THE BEAR THAT ATTACKED THE

WOMAN HAD TWO CUBS AND WE FEEL

THAT SHE WAS ACTING ON HER

MATERNAL INSTINCT.

SHE WAS PROBABLY TRYING TO

PROTECT HER CUBS AND OUTSIDE OF

THAT WE HAD ONE PERSON KILLED BY

A BEAR.

IT WAS A MAN WHO THOUGHT HE

KILLED THE BEAR AND WENT UP TO

DRESS THE BEAR AND THE BEAR

KILLED HIM.

PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE AFRAID

OF BEARS.

THE TIME THAT THEY LOSE FEAR OF

HUMANS IT WILL BE ALL OVER FOR

THEM.

>> GENTLEMEN WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT

AT THAT.

>>

>>> THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE

IN SWANTON WAS ESTABLISHED IN

1943 TO PROVIDE HABITAT FOR

BIRDS.

AS JUDY REPORTS IT IS A PLACE

WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE WILDLIFE

AND APPRECIATE FORESTS, BUGS AND

GRASS LAND.

>> Reporter: TO APPRECIATE THE

WILDLIFE REFUGE YOU NEED TO GET

OUT ON THE WATER.

>> WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING OUT

SEVEN MILES TODAY WHERE IT

ENTERS THE BAY.

>> Reporter: OUR GUIDE IS JUDY

EDWARD

EDWARDS.

THE FOREST IS HOME TO MANY

SPECIES OF BIRDS.

>> IN 1989 WE HAD ONE NEST IN

THE REFUGE AND TODAY WE HAVE 44.

>> THIS IS HOME TO HAVE THE

INVESTIGATE'S BLUE HERON AREA.

>> THEY HAVE BEEN NESTING FOR 70

YEARS.

THEY COME BACK EVERY YEAR.

AND THE VARIETY OF FOOD HERE IS

WHAT MAKES IT A GREAT PLACE.

>> Reporter: THERE IS A LARGE

SUPPLY OF FISH AND PEOPLE.

AND THAT CAN PRESENT A PROBLEM.

THERE ARE SIGNS OUT WARNING

BOATERS TO STAY AWAY FROM THE

NESTING AREAS.

IF P THELET THE BIRDS ARE FRIGHTENED, THE

RESULT ARES CAN BE DEVASTATING.

>> IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, THEY

MAY NOT SURVIVE.

>> EDWARDS SAYS THE SAIMME THING

CAN HAPPEN IN COLD, DAMP

WEATHER.

>> TWO NESTING PAIRS OF BALD

EAGLES ARE HERE AND THEY HAVE A

BALD CHICK.

>> THEY COULD JUST BE RESTING ON

TOP OF THE TREE TOP.

>> THE REFUGE IS KEEPING THE

LOCATION OF THE EAGLE NESTS A

SECRET.

AND IF THE CHICKS SURVIVE THEY

WILL BE BACK TO NEST AGAIN NEXT

YEAR ADDING TO THE DIVERSITY.

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