YCQM: April 29, 2018

BURLINGTON, Vt. >> Announcer: FROM WCAX, THIS IS
"YOU CAN QUOTE ME."
>> Darren: GOOD MORNING,
EVERYONE.
I'M DARREN PERRON.
RIGHT NOW ON "YOU CAN QUOTE ME,"
BOOKS OVER BREAKFAST.
WE'LL TALK TO THREE VERMONT
AUTHORS ON THE PROGRAM TODAY.
D.J. BARRY TALKS ABOUT HIS NEW
CHILDREN'S BOOK, "HIYO THE LONG
DRAGON" AND HIS EASY ONLINE
PUBLISHING EXPERIENCE.
RAY PERKINS DISCUSSES HIS BOOK
SERIES AND HIS LATEST
INSTALLMENT, "THE MYSTERY OF THE
HAUNTED OPERA HOUSE" AND WITH
HIM, HIS ILLUSTRATOR AND
DAUGHTER-IN-LAW STEPHANIE
COOLIDGE PERKINS.
PLUS, THEA LEWIS IS HERE TO TALK
ABOUT HER NEW BOOK, "WICKED
VERMONT," AND THAT'S WHERE WE
BEGIN THIS MORNING.
MOST OF US CAN APPRECIATE JUST
HOW BEAUTIFUL VERMONT IS WITH
ITS ROLLING HILLS, MOUNTAINS,
FARMS, AND COVERED BRIDGES, BUT
THERE'S A DARK SIDE TO THE GREEN
MOUNTAINS TOO, AND THEA LEWIS
HIGHLIGHTS THE MORE SINISTER
SIDE OF THE STATE IN HER NEW
BOOK, "WICKED VERMONT."
AND THEA LEWIS JOINS ME NOW.
GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
>> Lewis: GOOD MORNING, DARREN.
>> Darren: I THINK A LOT OF
FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE SURPRISED
AT SOME OF THE THINGS THEY READ
IN THIS BOOK, INCLUDING THAT
THERE WAS A SERIAL KILLER HERE
IN VERMONT.
>> Lewis: ABSOLUTELY.
H.H. HOLMES.
I LIKE TO SAY THAT HE WAS UVM'S
DEADLIEST STUDENT.
HE WAS AT THE MEDICAL SCHOOL FOR
ABOUT A YEAR.
THAT'S IN 1878, AND THIS WAS A
GUY WHO CAME FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE,
WANTED TO MAKE HIS WAY IN THE
MEDICAL FIELD AND HE ENDED UP
LEAVING THE CITY OF BURLINGTON.
HE SAID THE MEDICAL SCHOOL WAS
TOO SMALL TO SUIT HIS NEEDS, BUT
I THINK IT WAS REALLY THAT THE
CITY OF BURLINGTON WAS TOO
CLOSELY KNIT A COMMUNITY TO HIDE
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE WAS
UP TO.
>> Darren: AND WHAT WAS HE UP
TO?
GIVE US A HISTORY.
>> Lewis: WHEN HE WENT ON TO THE
CITY OF CHICAGO, HE WAS KNOWN
FOR DOING SOMETHING -- FEDERAL
AGENTS WERE ACTUALLY PURSUING
HIM TOWARD THE END OF HIS CAREER
FOR DOING SOMETHING CALLED THE
DEAD MAN SHUFFLE AND THAT'S WHEN
YOU TAKE OUT AN INSURANCE POLICY
ON A FICTITIOUS INDIVIDUAL AND
SOMETIME LATER, PROVIDE A BODY,
SOME POOR PERSON THAT CAME TO
TOWN AND MADE ACQUAINTANCE WITH
H.H. HOLMES AND HE WOULD INVITE
THEM TO STAY IN HIS HOTEL.
IT WAS LUCKY THAT THE ROOMS WERE
SO INEXPENSIVE, BUT EVENTUALLY
THEIR LUCK RAN OUT.
>> Darren: OBVIOUSLY THIS BECAME
SOMEWHAT OF A HOT TOPIC WHEN
BARACK OBAMA WAS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT, THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT,
A LOT OF CONSPIRACY THEORISTS
SAID HE WASN'T ACTUALLY BORN IN
THE U.S., BUT THERE WAS A
SIMILAR CASE HERE IN VERMONT.
>> Lewis: THAT'S RIGHT.
PRESIDENT CHESTER ARTHUR, WHO
WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BORN IN
FRANKLIN COUNTY, VERMONT, BUT
HIS MOTHER HAD TIES TO QUEBEC.
HER PARENTS ACTUALLY LIVED THERE
AROUND THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH AND
SOME CONSPIRACY THEORISTS STILL
THINK TODAY THAT CHESTER ARTHUR
WAS BORN OVER THE BORDER.
HE'S A FASCINATING CHARACTER NO
MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN, AS
OUTLINED IN THE BOOK.
HE WAS KIND OF A DANDY.
HE CHANGED HIS CLOTHES SEVERAL
TIMES A DAY.
HE WAS REALLY -- HE GUTTED THE
WHITE HOUSE AND HAD TIFFANY MAKE
NEW DESIGNS FOR THE ROOMS.
THIS WAS A FASCINATING
CHARACTER.
>> Darren: AND A FANCY
PRESIDENT.
>> Lewis: VERY FANCY, YES.
>> Darren: TELL US ABOUT THE
VERMONT BOY WHO RAN AWAY TO JOIN
THE CIRCUS.
>> Lewis: THIS IS ONE OF MY
FAVORITE STORIES.
ETHAN STONE, HE'S 10 YEARS OLD
AND THE CIRCUS COMES TO THE CITY
OF BURLINGTON.
WITH ALL THE MASS MEDIA WE HAVE
TODAY, WE CAN'T IMAGINE THE STIR
A CIRCUS, WHICH SOME PEOPLE
CONSIDERED SCANDALOUS, WOULD
MAKE IN A CITY LIKE BURLINGTON.
HE BEFRIENDED A VENTRILOQUIST
AND HE TOOK OFF.
HIS FATHER, A PROMINENT LAWYER,
WAS NOT TOO HAPPY OF THIS AND
THERE WAS A LAWSUIT THAT WAS A
RESULT OF HIS RUNNING AWAY.
AMAZINGLY, THIS GUY WAS STILL
RIDING BARE BACK INTO HIS 70s.
I TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE BOOK.
>> Darren: AND HE BECAME QUITE
FAMOUS.
>> Lewis: HE BECAME SO FAMOUS.
HE WAS KNOWN NATIONALLY AND
INTERNATIONALLY AND HE WAS PART
OF AN AMATEUR CIRCUIT THAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BENEFIT THE RED
CROSS AND AT THE AGE OF 70 YEARS
OLD, HE RODE BAREBACK BACKWARD
ON A HORSE AND HE STOLE ANNIE
OAKLEY'S THUNDER.
>> Darren: I CAN IMAGINE SO.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONTPELIER
MURDERESS.
>> Lewis: THIS IS A TALE OF A
YOUNG WOMAN WHO -- A VERY SAD
TALE.
SHE WAS PART OF A LOVE TRIANGLE
AND SHE WAS PROMISED THINGS BY
HER SUITOR AND HE DIDN'T
DELIVER.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THEIR
RELATIONSHIP WAS KIND OF
UNDERCOVER, UNDER THE RADAR, AND
FINALLY, MILDRED COULDN'T TAKE
IT ANY LONGER AND THAT'S HEN SHE
GOT A GUN.
>> Darren: WELL, YOU'RE NO
STRANGER TO THE DARKER SIDE OF
VERMONT.
OF COURSE, YOU HOST AND OWN THE
GHOST WALK IN BURLINGTON.
YOU'VE ALSO BEEN SCARING UP
HISTORY SINCE 2002.
YOU'VE WRITTEN AT BOOK CALLED
HIE HAUNTED BURLINGTON."
I'VE GOT TO ASK, HAVE YOU ALWAYS
BEEN INTERESTED IN THIS KIND OF
STUFF?
>> Lewis: I HAVE TO TELL YOU
THAT I'VE GOT A FAMILY THAT'S
DECENTLY SPOOKY, RELATIVES,
AUNTS, NIECES, MY DAUGHTER IN
FACT ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO KIND OF
SENSE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE
DON'T AND I NEVER REALLY FELT A
PART OF THAT UNTIL STARTING
QUONE CITY GHOST WALK OPENED
EVERYTHING UP FOR ME AND I
STARTED HAVING THESE STRANGE,
INTUITIVE, PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERS
AND I LOVE IT.
IT'S A NATURAL PART OF LIFE FOR
ME NOW.
>> Darren: IT'S NOT SCARY?
>> Lewis: IT'S NOT REALLY SCARY
TO ME.
SOMETIMES DUMBFOUNDING WHEN I'M
ON A QUEEN CITY GHOST WALK TOUR
IN DOWNTOWN BURLINGTON, I'M
USUALLY SO DISTRACTED TELLING MY
STORIES, I'M NOT PAYING
ATTENTION TO THE PHYSICAL SPACE
AROUND ME, BUT PEOPLE ON THE
TOUR HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE
PHENOMENON THAT'S OCCURRED WHEN
WE'RE STANDING IN ONE LOCATION
OR ANOTHER AND I FIND IT
RIVETING AND ALSO QUITE BIZARRE.
>> Darren: YEAH.
I WANT YOU TO READ A LITTLE BIT
IF YOU WOULD FROM "WICKED
VERMONT."
>> Lewis: I WILL.
GLASSES ON.
THIS IS CALLED BORN OVER THE
BORDER.
WHEN YOU THINK OF A BIRTHER
MOVEMENT, YOU PROBABLY PICTURE
UNITED STATES PRESIDENT WHO WAS
LAMPOONED FOR HIS OVERSIZED
EARS.
IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO LEARN
THAT THE FIRST FAMOUS BIRTHER
CONTROVERSY SWIRLED NOT AROUND
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, BUT
RATHER A DIFFERENT COMMANDER IN
CHIEF, A GUY WHOSE MASSIVE
SIDEBURNS WOULD BE AT HOME IN
ANY BARBERSHOP QUARTET.
CAN YOU NAME THE PRESIDENT?
HE ROU TEE TAKES A TOP SPOT ON
LISTS THAT INCLUDE THE FACIAL
HAIR OF HARRISON, VAN BUREN, AND
LINCOLN AND THE ANSWER IS
CHESTER ARTHUR.
>> Darren: I LOVE IT.
I JUST WANT ONE MORE QUESTION.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO YOU'RE
GOING TO WRITE ABOUT?
THERE'S SO MANY FASCINATING
PEOPLE IN VERMONT.
>> Lewis: IT'S SO HARD.
I FALL REGULARLY DOWN THE RABBIT
HOLD OF OLD BURLINGTON
NEWSPAPERS AND ARTICLES AND
THERE'S SO MANY FASCINATING
CHARACTERS IN OUR HISTORY.
PEOPLE THAT I NEVER HEAR ABOUT
IN CLASS, PEOPLE LIKE TIMOTHY
FOLLETTE, THE STRANGER SIDE OF
ETHAN ALLEN AND I GO INTO THAT.
IT'S BASICALLY WHAT CALLS TO ME,
WHO I FIND MOST FASCINATING AND
IT'S BASED ON MY OWN LIFE
EXPERIENCE.
>> Darren: THEA LEWIS, THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> Lewis: THANK YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> Darren: YOUR LATEST NEWS AND
WEATHER AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR.
SCOTT FLEISHMAN IS IN THE
NEWSROOM WITH WHAT'S COMING UP
ON THE WEEKEND.
>> Scott: GOOD MORNING.
COMING UP AT THE TOP OF THE
HOUR, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT
GENEALOGY FOR GEARS.
WEBSITES LIKE ANCESTRY.COM ARE
HELPING PEOPLE FIND THEIR FAMILY
LINEAGE.
THIS MORNING, WE'RE SPEAKING TO
A LOCAL GENEALOGIST HOW TO BEST
TRACK YOUR ANCESTORS.
ALSO, THE BLACK LIVES MATTER
FLAG WILL BE RAISED AT BOTH THE
BRATTLEBORO HIGH AND MIDDLE
SCHOOLS THIS WEEK.
THIS IS AN IDEA BROUGHT TO THE
SCHOOL BOARD BY THE STUDENTS.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THE SCHOOL'S
PRINCIPAL WHO SAYS HE'S WILLING
TO TAKE THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH
THE RAISING OF THE FLAG.
AND A DOWNTOWN BURLINGTON CHURCH
HAS BEEN DEMOTED FROM A
CATHEDRAL TO A PARISH.
WE FIND OUT WHY THIS COULD BE
THE FIRST STEP TO A POSSIBLE
MERGER WITH A NEIGHBORING CHURCH
AND WE HAVE MORE WET WARES ON
THE WAY FOR SUNDAY.
GARY WILL BE BY TO TELL US WHEN
WE DRY OUT.
THE WEEKEND STARTS AT 8:00 A.M.
>> Darren: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COMING UP NEXT A LINE ON THE
FLOOR MARKS THE U.S.-CANADIAN
BORDER AND THE BUILDING IS
PARTLY IN VERMONT, BUT DID YOU
KNOW THE HASKELL OPERA HOUSE AND
LIBRARY MAY ALSO HOLD SOME
FRIGHTENING SECRETS?
>> Darren: TEEN DETECTIVES AND
THEIR FRIENDS VENTURE INTO THE
REALM OF GHOSTS AND STRANGE
HAPPENINGS AT THE WORLD FAMOUS
HASKELL OPERA HOUSE AND LIBRARY.
IN RAY PERKINS' NEW BOOK, "THE
MYSTERY OF THE HAUNTED OPERA
HOUSE."
AND RAY PERKINS, ALONG WITH HIS
ILLUSTRATOR STEPHANIE COOLIDGE
PERKINS JOIN ME NOW.
GOOD MORNING TO BOTH OF YOU.
>> Perkins: GOOD MORNING,
DARREN.
>> Darren: RAY, THIS IS YOUR
THIRD BOOK AS PART OF A SERIES.
WHAT IS THE RUNNING LINE BETWEEN
ALL THREE?
HOW ARE YOU FORWARDING WHAT
YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN ABOUT?
>> Perkins: THE TEEN DETECTIVES
ARE B.T. AND JIMMY, AND THEY
BEGIN BY SOLVING A LOCAL MYSTERY
AND THEY CONTINUE TO SOLVE
MYSTERIES IN THE NORTHEAST
KINGDOM.
>> Darren: AND, THIS AGAIN, HANS
AT THE HASKELL OPERA HOUSE?
>> Perkins: CORRECT.
>> Darren: FULL DISCLOSURE,
YOU'RE MY FORMER TEACHER.
WAY, WAY BACK WHEN AT BARTON
GRADE SCHOOL.
>> Perkins: YES.
>> Darren: WAS THERE AN
INSPIRATION FOR YOU?
HAVING WORKED FOR SO MANY YEARS
WITH KIDS, TO THEN INCORPORATE
KIDS INTO THIS BOOK?
>> Perkins: WELL, SEVERAL -- I
DON'T KNOW, SEVERAL
INSPIRATIONS, I GUESS YOU'D SAY.
ONE WAS A PROFESSOR AT COLLEGE,
GRAHAM NEWELL, WHO TAUGHT A LOT
ABOUT VERMONT HISTORY, SO THAT
GOT ME INTRIGUED, AND THEN AS I
TAUGHT VERMONT HISTORY IN SIXTH
GRADE, I BEGAN TO THINK ABOUT
THE POSSIBILITIES AND I WROTE A
SHORT STORY FOR A GROUP OF
STUDENTS AS THEY WERE WRITING
THEIR STORIES AND OVER THE
YEARS, JUST CONTINUED THAT
STORY.
>> Darren: SO YOU TALK ABOUT THE
HASKELL OPERA HOUSE IN THIS
BOOK.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY PRETTY FAMOUS
BUILDING.
AS I MENTIONED, THE BORDERLINE,
LITERAL LINE RUNS RIGHT DOWN THE
MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING.
SO VERY UNIQUE.
IT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE U.S.
AND CANADIAN BORDER.
A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT
THE RUMORS OF IT BEING HAUNTED,
SO THIS BOOK YOU'VE WRITTEN, NOT
COMPLETELY FICTION.
>> Perkins: NOT AT ALL.
I READ AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWPORT
DAILY A FEW YEARS AGO AND FOUND
OUT THAT THE PARANORMAL
INVESTIGATORS OF NEW ENGLAND
WERE GOING TO BE AT THE HASKELL
ONE EVENING, AND I SAID TO MY
SON, GRAB YOUR CAMERA, WE'RE
GOING OUT.
AND I GOT UP THERE, I MET THE
PEOPLE.
THEY WERE WONDERFUL, BETTY,
KAREN, MIKE, AND TOOK A LOT OF
NOTES AND WAS THE INSPIRATION
FOR THIS BOOK.
AS I WAS WRITING MY PREVIOUS
BOOK.
>> Darren: ALL RIGHT, SO DID
THEY FIND ANYTHING THAT WAS OUT
OF THE NORM?
>> Perkins: NOT A WHOLE LOT
HAPPENED THAT EVENING, BUT
THERE'S SO MANY ANECDOTAL
STORIES FROM ACTORS AND
ACTRESSES WHO WORKED THERE ABOUT
SUMMERTIME COOL BREEZES AND
DOORS FLYING OPEN AND STRANGE
NOISES.
I THOUGHT, OH, THERE'S A STORY
HERE.
>> Darren: SO WHAT IN THE BOOK
SPECIFICALLY DO YOU GET AT AND
WHAT COULD YOU SAY, UM, THIS
COULD BE KIND OF TRUE?
>> Perkins: WELL, MY BOOKS, THE
REPORTER FOR THE CHRONICLE IN
BARTON INTERVIEWED ME A FEW
YEARS BACK AND SAID, YOU WRITE
HISTORY MYSTERIES, DON'T YOU?
I SAID, YES, I DO, BECAUSE BEING
A HISTORIAN, I LIKE TO PUT IN A
GOOD AMOUNT OF HISTORY AND THEN
I ADD CHARACTERS AND A LITTLE
BIT OF FICTION AND SOME HISTORY.
>> Darren: ALL RIGHT.
THIS BOOK IS A FAMILY AFFAIR AS
WELL.
STEPHANIE, YOU'RE RAY'S
DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.
PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE.
HOW IS IT TO WORK WITH YOUR
FATHER-IN-LAW?
>> Stephanie: IT'S ACTUALLY
REALLY GREAT.
I'D SAY IN TERMS OF IN-LAWS, I
HIT THE JACKPOT, SO I'M PRETTY
FORTUNATE.
>> Darren: DID HE TELL YOU TO
SAY THAT?
>> Stephanie: HE DID NOT.
>> Darren: WHAT WAS YOUR
BACKGROUND IN ART AND WHY WAS
THIS PROJECT INTERESTING TO YOU?
>> Stephanie: I WENT TO
ROCHESTER INSTITUTE OF
TECHNOLOGY AND I STUDIED
ILLUSTRATION AND GRAPHIC DESIGN
THERE.
THIS FIT RIGHT IN.
IT'S BEEN A FUN PROJECT.
I'VE HELPED HIM WITH THREE BOOKS
SO FAR AND I APPRECIATE HIS
PATIENCE WITH ME.
IT DOES TAKE ME A LITTLE WHILE,
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST
BRINGING HIS IDEAS AND HIS
STORY, HIS CHARACTERS ALIVE.
I HOPE I DO THAT JUSTICE AND,
YOU KNOW, MAKE IT REALLY
DYNAMIC, BRINGING THE TONES OF
HISTORY AND THE MYSTERY AND, YOU
KNOW, JUST HELP TO BRING IT
ALIVE FOR HIM.
>> Darren: SO RAY, THREE BOOKS
THUS FAR.
ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT OR IN THE
PROCESS OF WORKING ON ANOTHER?
>> Perkins: YES, I HAVE ONE THAT
I PRETTY MUCH HAVE COMPLETED.
IT'S "THE MYSTERY OF THE
MOUNTAINTOP TREASURE," AND IT
TAKES PLACE AGAIN IN THE
NORTHEAST KINGDOM, IN THE
MOUNTAINS, ALONG AN AREA ALONG
THE BORDER, AGAIN, IN TROY WHERE
THE SPACE RESEARCH CENTER WAS.
>> Darren: GOTCHA.
RAY, LET'S HEAR A LITTLE BIT
FROM YOUR BOOK, PLEASE.
>> Perkins: SURE.
THE KIDS WERE AT THE OPERA HOUSE
AND A COUPLE OF THE GIRLS WHO
WERE FRIENDS WITH B.T. AND JIMMY
GO OFF ON THEIR OWN TO EXPLORE.
A LOOK OF WONDER ON THE TWO
GIRLS' FACES SAID IT ALL.
AS THEY STRUGGLED TO TAKE IN
SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW AND
MESMERIZING.
IT WASN'T THE WRITING THAT
HALTED THEM IN THEIR TRACKS,
HOWEVER.
SANDY SPOTTED IT FIRST.
WHILE STANDING IN THE DOORWAY AT
AN ACUTE ANGLE TO THE SIGNATURE
WALL, SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD MAKE
OUT THE OUTLINE OF A FIGURE.
AM I JUST IMAGINING THINGS, SHE
MUMBLED, HER VOICE BARELY A
SWISS WHISPER.
THE FIGURE WAS VAGUE AND NEARLY
TRANSLUCENT, BUT WITHOUT A
DOUBT, SOMETHING WITH A HUMAN
SHAPE GLOWED FAINTLY AND IT
APPEARED TO BE SHAPED LIKE A
FEMALE.
THE APPARITION WAS WEARING A
LACEY OFF-WHITE DRESS THAT ON
CLOSER INSPECTION LOOKED MUCH
LIKE A WEDDING GOWN.
PATTY SAW IT TOO.
THEN JUST AS QUICKLY AS IT HAD
SHOWN ITSELF, THE SPECTER
DISAPPEARED, ALMOST AS IF IT HAD
MELTED BACK INTO THE WALL.
>> Darren: OOH, GOOD STUFF.
THANK YOU BOTH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
THIS MORNING.
>> Perkins: THANK YOU.
>> Darren: WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO
BOOK NUMBER FOUR.
THANKS, RAY.
>>> COMING UP NEXT, THIS ONE'S
FOR THE LITTLE KIDS.
WELL, THE BOOK IS, BUT HOW IT
GOT PUBLISHED IS FOR ASPIRING
ADULT AUTHORS.
WE'LL EXPLAIN WHEN WE COME BACK.
>> Darren: OKAY, LET'S FACE IT,
POOP IS FUNNY TO KIDS, AND "HIYO
THE LONG DRAGON" IS, WELL, A
DRAGON AND IT TURNS OUT THE BOOK
IS ALSO ABOUT POOP.
TO EXPLAIN AND TO TELL US ABOUT
EASY PUBLISHING AS WELL, I'M
JOINED NOW BY THE BOOK'S AUTHOR,
D.J. BARRY.
GOOD MORNING.
>> Barry: GOOD MORNING, DARREN.
>> Darren: CLEARLY YOU HAVE A
DAUGHTER.
>> Barry: YES, I DO.
YES, I DO, AND WITH THAT, WE
HAVE A STACK OF CHILDREN'S BOOKS
FROM ALL KINDS OF AUTHORS LIKE
DR. SEUSS AND BERNSTEIN BEARS
AND REALLY INSPIRED ME TO WANT
TO GET INTO THAT STACK AND HOW
DO I GET INTO THAT PILE SO THAT
SHE PICKS MY BOOK.
>> Darren: IT'S GOOD COMPANY TO
BE IN.
TELL US ABOUT YOUR BOOK.
>> Barry: SO "HIYO THE LONG
DRAGON" IS A LONG DRAGON AND AT
THE END, HE HAS A BIG SURPRISE
FOR EVERYONE.
AND HONESTLY, IT WAS -- IT JUST
SPONTANEOUSLY HAPPENED AND WE'VE
BEEN INTO DRAGON WILL A LOT
LATELY.
SHE LOVES "ROOM ON THE BROOM,"
SO I'M ALWAYS ASKED TO BE A
DRAGON WHEN I COME HOME AND,
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO DO A BOOK
ABOUT A DRAGON.
>> Darren: YOU'RE AN ARTIST, YOU
ILLUSTRATED THE BOOK AS WELL,
BUT I UNDERSTAND THIS WASN'T
REALLY ORIGINALLY GOING IN THIS
DIRECTION.
TELL US ABOUT THE SORT OF
STRUGGLE THAT SOMETIMES AUTHORS
CAN FACE.
>> Barry: YEAH, SO FOR A FEW
WEEKS I WAS WORKING ON THIS
TITLE AND IT WAS ABOUT A WORLD
COW, THIS COW WHOSE SPOTS ARE
THE MAP OF THE WORLD, AND I HAD
A LOT OF ART FOR IT AND I
JUST -- NOTHING WAS REALLY
MESHING AND I WAS TRYING TO COME
UP WITH THE WORDS AND IT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SOCIAL
EQUALITY.
AND I REALLY HIT A WALL, THAT
CLASSIC WRITER'S BLOCK THAT CAN
BE SO FRUSTRATING, SO THAT'S, I
THINK, WHEN I, OUT OF PURE
FRUSTRATION, JUST WANTED TO DO A
DRAGON THAT JUST POOPS.
>> Darren: THIS ALL HAPPENED
REALLY FAST FOR YOU, FROM
PUBLISHING TO ACTUALLY SELLING.
YOU DID THIS YOURSELF THROUGH
AMAZON.
EXPLAIN TO FOLKS HOW THAT WORKS.
>> Barry: YEAH, SO I HAD THE
IDEA FOR THE DRAGON LAST WEEK,
AND I -- AFTER MAKING THE ART, I
WAS RESEARCHING DIFFERENT WAYS
TO SELF-PUBLISH, SOME OF WHICH
YOU NEEDED MONEY UP FRONT OR BUY
A BOX OF BOOKS, HAND THEM OUT
YOURSELF.
THEN I CAME ACROSS AMAZON
SERVICE CALLED KDP SELECT, WHICH
STANDS FOR KINDLE DIRECT
PUBLISHING, AND IT STARTED OFF
AS AN E-BOOK PLATFORM, BUT NOW
NIPS A BETA PHASE -- IT'S IN A
BETA PHASE OF PRINTING ON
DEMAND.
I REALIZED THERE'S NO MONEY UP
FRONT, YOU CAN UPLOAD YOUR
MANUSCRIPT AND YOU CAN CLICK BUY
AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE
WORLDWIDE ALMOST WITHIN 24
HOURS.
IT WAS REMARKABLE.
>> Darren: SO THIS IN COMPARISON
TO GETTING A BOOK PUBLISHED
OTHERWISE, HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> Barry: SO THE CLASSIC WAY, I
WOULD SAY, WOULD BE SUBMITTING
YOUR MANUSCRIPT AND FIRST OF ALL
HAVING IT PRINTED YOURSELF, BUT
THEN SPAMMING ALL THESE NEW YORK
CITY PUBLISHING COMPANIES AND
TRYING TO GET YOUR FOOT IN THE
DOOR THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD WAIT A
YEAR JUST TO BE REJECTED, AND
WITHIN FIVE DAYS, MY BOOK WAS
PUBLISHED ON AMAZON AND I WAS
ABLE TO CLICK AND HAVE MY OWN
COPY, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT I WAS
AFTER.
>> Darren: THAT'S AWESOME.
THEY TAKE A BIG CHUNK OF THE
PROFIT, THOUGH?
>> Barry: THEY DO.
THE WAY DIRECT PUBLISHING WORKS
WITH THEM, YOU GET 60% OF THE
SALE MINUS PRINTING COSTS, AND
AMAZON TAKES 40% BEFORE THE
PRINTING COSTS.
SO THEY GIVE YOU HOW MUCH IT
WILL COST FOR THEM TO PRINT AND
THEN IT'S UP TO YOU, YOU
ACTUALLY SET YOUR OWN PRICE, BUT
WITH CHILDREN'S BOOKS, I MEAN, I
DON'T WANT TO SPEND MORE THAN
$10 ON A CHILDREN'S BOOK AND I
DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO FOR
ME.
>> Darren: WE TALKED A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER AND I
UNDERSTAND SHE PLAYED KIND OF A
BIG ROLE IN HIYO, SO ACTUALLY --
>> Barry: SHE DID.
>> Darren: AND SHE'S IN THE
STUDIO.
SHE'S SO CUTE.
SO THIS IS YOUR HELPER ON THIS.
>> Barry: THIS IS.
>> Darren: TELL US HOW SHE GAVE
YOU A HAND.
>> Barry: IT WAS ORIGINALLY
CALLED THE LONG DRAGON AND WE
WERE SITTING ON THE POTTY AND I
ASKED HER, WHAT SHOULD WE NAME
THIS DRAGON?
SHE'S IN A PHASE OF NAMING
EVERYTHING, AND SHE SAID HIYO.
>> Darren: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
HIYO?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Barry: SHE ASKED ME TO READ
IT TO HER, SO THAT'S A GOOD
SIGN.
SHE ALSO HELPED WITH SOME OF THE
ARTWORK AND IT WAS PRETTY FUN.
SHE SAT ON MY LAP WHILE WE
PLAYED ON THE COMPUTER.
>> Darren: I THINK SHE'S A TV
STAR DOWN THE ROAD BY THE LOOKS
OF THINGS.
>> Barry: I THINK SO.
>> Darren: WELL, D.J., LET'S, IF
YOU DON'T MIND READ -- BYE,
EVELYN, THANK YOU!
DO YOU MIND READING A LITTLE BIT
OF THE BOOK?
>> Barry: NOT AT ALL.
I COULD PROBABLY READ THE WHOLE
THING.
ALL RIGHT.
HIYO IS A DRAGON, A VERY LONG,
LONG, LONG, LONG, LONG DRAGON
WITH A BIG, BIG, BIG -- I DON'T
REALLY WANT TO SPOIL THE END,
BUT IT'S THE SURPRISE.
>> Darren: LEAVE THAT FOR THE
SURPRISE.
SO DO YOU THINK YOU'LL EVER GET
TO THE OTHER BOOK ABOUT SOCIAL
EQUALITY?
>> Barry: YES, I THINK SO.
YEAH, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
SUBJECT WITH ME AND I WOULD LOVE
TO TACKLE THAT ON, AND I LEARNED
A LOT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS
TO, YOU KNOW -- I KNOW HOW TO
STRUCTURE THE ART BETTER AND HOW
TO REALLY -- I THINK DOING THE
WORDS FIRST WOULD BE IMPORTANT
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM
WITH THAT PROJECT.
I HAD ALL THIS ART AND IT MADE
NO SENSE.
>> Darren: WHY IMPORTANT TO YOU,
IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING?
>> Barry: I GUESS ON A PERSONAL
LEVEL, I WAS BULLIED THROUGHOUT
MOST OF MY CHILDHOOD AND, YOU
KNOW, GROWING UP AND DEALING
WITH THAT AND SEEING EVERYTHING
NOWADAYS HASN'T GOTTEN MUCH
BETTER, IT'S GOTTEN WORSE WITH
THE INTERNET AND SOCIAL MEDIA,
AND I THINK THOSE THAT ARE
GETTING BULLIED OUT THERE
DEFINITELY NEED SOME PEOPLE
HELPING THAT FIGHT, AND, YOU
KNOW, IF I CAN MAKE A BOOK THAT
REALLY REMINDED EVERYBODY WE'RE
ALL SPOTS ON THE SAME COW, YOU
KNOW, COLOR, RACE, IT DOESN'T
THROW IT ALL OUT THE WINDOW,
WE'RE HERE TOGETHER IN THIS
LIFE, I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO
BE A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO HELP,
YOU KNOW, MAYBE CHILDREN READING
IT TO UNDERSTAND MORE AND
ACCEPTING, YOU KNOW, BE
ACCEPTING MORE AND TRY TO
INSTILL THAT WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG
BECAUSE THEY'RE SPONGES.
>> Darren: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
MESSAGE TO END THE SHOW ON.
D.J. BARRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> Barry: THANK YOU, DARREN.
>> Darren: AND THANK YOU FOR
WATCHING.
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