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YCQM: June 14, 2020

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Published: Jun. 14, 2020 at 1:48 PM EDT
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DARREN: GOOD MORNING.

I'M DARREN PERFECT PERRON.

RIGHT NOW ON "YOU CAN QUOTE ME" WE DIVE DEEPER INTO THE STATE THANS PLAN TO MOVE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT OF PRICEY HOTEL ROOMS AND INTO PERMANENT HOUSING WITH COTS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RITA MARKLEY.

AND WE TALK TO CAROLYN WEIR OF THE MCCLURE FOUNDATION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION'S GIFT OF A FREE COLLEGE COURSE TO EVERY GRADUATING SENIOR IN VERMONT.

PLUS MARGARET BRENNAN GIVES US A PREVIEW OF WHAT'S COMING UP ON "FACE THE NATION." AND WE'LL GET ANALYSIS ON THE PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST IN THREE KEY STATES.

THAT'S WHERE WE BEGIN THIS MORNING.

MEGADONORS AND EXTRAS ROOTS CAMPAIGNS ARE PLACING MASSIVE POLITICAL BETS ON WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND HERE'S WHY.

FOUR YEARS AFTER PRESIDENT OBAMA RANG UP SOLID VICTORIES IN EVERY GREAT LAKES STATE EXCEPT INDIANA, 2016 SAW PRESIDENT TRUMP SCORE NAIL BITINGLY CLOSE WINS IN WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN AND PENNSYLVANIA.

THE COMBINED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND HILLARY CLINTON AMOUNTED TO JUST .8% OF ALL THE VOTES CAST THERE.

AND SECURED THE WHITE HOUSE FOR TRUMP, DESPHIELT CLINTON'S 3 MILLION POPULAR VOTE ADVANTAGE.

WASHINGTON INSIDERS AND STATE POWER BROKERS TELL OUR D.C. BUREAU'S KYLE MIDURA HOW THEY PLAN ON SWAYING YOUR VOTE THIS YEAR AND DELIVER THE PRESIDENCY FOR THEIR CANDIDATE.

>> REPORTER: BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WILL BE SPENT TO INFLUENCE 2020 ELECTIONS, WITH TENS OF MILLIONS AT HIS DISPOSAL BRADLEY IS INVESTING HEAVILY TO INFLUENCE THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN, AND PENNSYLVANIA.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ALL OF OUR RESOURCES.

>> REPORTER: HE'S THE COFOUNDER OF AMERICAN BRIDGE, A DEMOCRATIC SUPER PAC, THAT MEANS THEY CAN RAISE AND SPEND UNLIMITED CASH SO LONG AS THEY DON'T COORDINATE WITH OR BANK ROLL CAMPAIGNS AND PARTIES.

AMERICAN BRIDGE LAUNCHED AD BLITZES IN THE THREE SWING STATES BEGINNING IN NOVEMBER AND REASONLY TAILORED A WEBSITE TO THE REGION.

>> I WILL NOT VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP AGAIN.

>> OUR THEME OF THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN TO FIND LOCAL PEOPLE TELLING LOCAL STORIES.

>> REPORTER: THOSE STORIES MAY CENTER ON THE DAIRY INDUSTRY IN WISCONSIN OR WATER QUALITY IN MICHIGAN.

BUT HE SAYS THEY WILL ALL ESTABLISH THAT THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES AREN'T GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF VOTERS OR THEIR FINANCES.

THE HEAD OF THE BADGER STATE'S REPUBLICAN PARTY, ANDREW HITT, SAYS TRUMP'S RECORD AND ECONOMY EARN HIGH MARKS BACK HOME, DESCRIBING VOTERS AS WARY OF DEMOCRATS' DESIRE TO EXPAND GOVERNMENT.

>> I THINK WE'RE WELL POISED TO DELIVER WISCONSIN FOR THE PRESIDENT.

IT IS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS REALLY.

>> REPORTER: UNLIKE MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN DOESN'T HAVE ANOTHER STATE WADE RACE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.

BUT HITT BEGAN STAFFING UP LAST JULY WITH HELP FROM THE NATIONAL PARTY AND TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

HE SAYS 60 PLUS FULL-TIME STAFF IN AN ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS ARE MAKING ONE ON ONE CONNECTIONS DIGITALLY WITH PUBLIC LIFE SHUT DOWN.

TRADITIONAL DOOR KNOCKING WILL BEGIN AGAIN AT SOME POINT AND ADS THAT FOLLOW THIS FALL.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING TIME TO BE IN POLITICS IN WISCONSIN.

>> DARREN: KYLE JOINS ME NOW FROM D.C., GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, DARREN.

>> DARREN: SO WHY THESE STATES, KYLE, WHAT MAKES THEM SO CLOSE AND THE BIG PRIZES?

>> WELL, DARREN, THE KEY IS THAT MARGIN OF VICTORY THAT WAS SEEN IN 2016, WHERE JUST A FRACTION OF A PERCENT COMBINED WAS REALLY THE DIFFERENCE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT YEAR.

AND THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAT WERE CLOSE IN 2016, RIGHT NEXT TO VERMONT, NEW HAMPSHIRE WAS RAZOR THIN.

BUT THAT'S, THAT STATE ONLY HAS FOUR ELECTORAL VOTES.

AND THERE ARE OTHER BIG STATES THAT HAVE A LOT OF THE VOTE BUT THEY'RE NOT THIS CLOSE.

THAT'S WHY THESE GREAT LAKES STATES, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE STRATEGISTS, ARE GOING TO BE THE SWEET SPOT.

>> DARREN: TALKING ABOUT THESE GROUPS, WHICH OF THEM IS AHEAD IN THE MONEY RACE?

ALL IMPORTANT.

>> YES, NOW CAMPAIGN FINANCE DATA LAGS ABOUT A MONTH BEHIND, SO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

BUT BOTH HAVE MILLIONS AT THE BANK, AND BY BOTH I MEAN AMERICAN BRIDGE, THE DARK MONEY SUPER PAC, AS WELL AS THE WISCONSIN G.O.P.

IN 2018, DARK MONEY GROUPS ON THE LEFT HAD THE LION'S SHARE OF THE CASH, THEY WERE ABLE TO OUTSPEND THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE EQUATION.

THIS GO AROUND THE BIGGEST FINANCIAL PLAYER IS A FUND THAT'S JOINTLY MANAGED BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AS WELL AS THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE.

>> DARREN: SO WHAT DID DONALD TRUMP DO THAT HILLARY CLINTON DIDN'T THAT RESONATED IN THESE IMPORTANT STATES?

>> WELL, IT'S HARD TO REALLY NAIL THAT DOWN FOR SURE, BUT WHAT STRATEGISTS TELL ME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE IS THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN LARGELY TOOK THE MIDWEST, AND BY THAT I MEAN THE GREAT LAKES STATES, FOR GRANTED.

AND PRESIDENT TRUMP ESPECIALLY TOWARD THE END HAD A FINAL PUSH THERE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE HE WON OVER VOTERS IN THE FINAL DAYS.

NOW, WHAT THE WISCONSIN G.O.P. TELLS ME IS THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR STATE BECAUSE HE RAN ON THE PROMISE OF A STRONG ECONOMY, REALLY HELPING OUT THEIR POCKETBOOKS.

AND THEY SAY HIS RECORD ONLY MAKES THAT ARGUMENT EVEN STRONGER THIS GO AROUND.

TALKING TO AMERICAN BRIDGE, THAT LEFT LEANING SUPER PAC, THEY TELL ME THEY DO BELIEVE THAT DEMOCRATS SPENT TOO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S CHARACTER FLAWS IN 2016.

SO THIS YEAR THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE PIVOTING TOWARD ECONOMIC ISSUES, KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES SO TO SPEAK, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING VOICES OF DISAFFECTED TRUMP VOTERS TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR FOLKS' BANK ACCOUNTS AND BETTER FOR ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, THINGS THAT REALLY HIT HOME.

>> DARREN: KYLE MIDURA IN D.C., THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>> NEXT, MOVING HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT OF HOTELS.

THE STATE'S 23 MILLION-DOLLAR PLAN.

>> DARREN: A PROPOSAL BY THE SCOTT ADMINISTRATION TO HELP THE HOMELESS AND TRANSITION AWAY FROM A 48 MILLION-DOLLAR HOTEL VOUCHER SYSTEM.

THE NEW PLAN HAS A $23 MILLION PRICE TAG.

10 MILLION FOR THE VOUCHER PROGRAM, 6 MILLION TO HELP PEOPLE FIND HOUSING, 2.5 MILLION IN TEMPORARY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, 3.7 MILLION FOR ONE-TIME PAYMENTS TO HELP MORE THAN 700 FAMILIES, AND 250,000 TO ENCOURAGE LANDLORDS TO RENT TO PEOPLE WHO THEY MIGHT CONSIDER A RISK.

I ASKED RITA MARKLEY, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT COTS, HOW THIS WOULD WORK.

RITA MARKLEY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> DARREN: WHY SHOULD THE MONEY BE ALLOCATED THIS WAY?

>> WELL, THERE ARE RIGHT NOW MANY PEOPLE, MANY HOUSEHOLDS WHO DO NOT HAVE A HOME TO SAFELY ISOLATE OR FOLLOW QUARANTINE PROCEDURES.

MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS WHEN BUSINESSES STARTED TO CLOSE.

SO IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 15 TO 100 HOUSEHOLDS ALL OVER --

1500 TO 1800 HOUSEHOLDS ALL OVER VERMONT STAYING IN EMERGENCY HOTELS.

AND THERE NEEDS TO BE RESOURCES AND A VERY STRATEGIC PLAN FOR MOVING PEOPLE FROM THOSE MOTELS BACK INTO LONGER TERM HOUSING.

DWHARP WAS LEFT OFF THIS --

>> DARREN: WHAT WAS LEFT OFF THIS LEAST THAT YOU THINK COULD HELP?

>> I WANT TO SAY FIRST, I REALLY LOVE THE STRUCTURE OF THE PLAN THAT THE AGENCY OF HUMAN SERVICES PUTS OUT, BECAUSE IT FOCUSES ON HOUSING AND NOT JUST EMERGENCY RELIEF.

AND THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND THE SERVICES TO HELP, WE AT COTS ARE COORDINATING THE OUTREACH TO COUNTY MOTELS AND THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO SERVE THE 430 HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE NOW STAYING IN MOTELS.

SO, HAVING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN STAFF WHO CAN CONNECT PEOPLE TO HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES THEY'LL NEED, IS REALLY WISE.

SO I LIKE THE STRUCTURE OF THE WAY THEY'RE TRYING TO LAY THIS OUT, DECREASING MOTELS, INCREASING LONGER TERM HOUSING.

THE ONLY CHALLENGE I HAVE IS THE TIMELINE.

SO AS YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU'VE REPORTED ON IT, THERE'S A REAL SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN MANY PARTS OF VERMONT.

SO IN CHITTENDON COUNTY WE HAVE ABOUT 4400 HOUSEHOLDS CURRENTLY STAYING IN MOTELS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER OPTION.

EVE 2010 THIS EXPREVMENT ALL THE AGGRESSIVE JULT REACH AND CONNECTING PEOPLE TO HOUSING RESOURCES, THERE DON'T EXIST IN THIS COMMUNITY 430 AVAILABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE VACANT FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO.

SO MY CONCERN IS WE DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL HOUSING CAPACITY, EVEN IF WE'VE GOT THE SERVICES LINED UP, THE THREE MONTHS OF RENT, THERE ISN'T THE ACTUAL INVENTORY OF HOUSING FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO.

>> DARREN: IS THAT WHAT YOUR CLIENTS ARE TELLING YOU THEY NEED, IS THAT THE BIG PROBLEM HERE?

>> YES.

I THINK EVERYONE IS SAYING WE NEED HOUSING.

>> DARREN: SO WHAT ABOUT THE HOMELESS BY CHOICE, PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE SERVICES, SEEK SERVICES BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT'S BEING OFFERED OR DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT, HOW DO YOU REACH THEM?

>> I THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS, IS ANYBODY REALLY HOMELESS BY CHOICE?

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR 20, 30 YEARS, AND MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE RESISTANT TO HOUSING OR SERVICES TEND TO HAVE ACUTE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES.

THERE'S NO 8 OR 9-YEAR-OLD THAT YOU COULD TALK TO IN THIRD GRADE WHO WOULD RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY PICK ME, I WANT TO BE HOMELESS WHEN I GROW UP.

WHAT HAPPENS IS WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME MENTAL HEALTH OPTIONS AND RESOURCES THAT WE DID EVEN 10 YEARS AGO.

SO THERE ARE LESS AND LESS RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND THAT MEANS THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MANAGE WITHIN A SHELTER OR THEY NEED A LITTLE EXTRA HELP IF THEY ARE IN HOUSING AND THEY DON GET THAT HELP, SO THEY INEVITABLY LOSE IT AND THEN THEY HAVE AN EVICTION ON THEIR RECORD.

SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE HAD AN OPIATE EPIDEMIC AND THAT WE HAVE VERY SCARCE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE'S NOBODY WHO REALLY WANTS TO BE HOMELESS.

IT'S MORE THE FALLOUT OF POLICIES THAT HAVE SHORT CHANGED SOME OF THOSE SYSTEMS TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

>> DARREN: NOW, THIS PLAN, OF COURSE, STILL NEEDS APPROVAL.

ANY INDICATION YET HOW THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE ADMINISTERED BY WHICH ORGANIZATIONS, HOW THE MONEY WILL BE DISTRIBUTED?

>> I THINK PART OF THE FUNDING IS GOING TO GO TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY TO ADMINISTER, AND THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WORK WITH SHELTERS ALL THE TIME, AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN FUNDING SOME OF THE MOTEL OUTREACH TO GET PEOPLE LINED UP, ADDRESSING THEIR CREDIT, MAKING SURE THAT THEIR RESOURCES ARE IN LINE AND EVERYTHING STACKED IN THEIR FAVOR TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN A HOUSING SEARCH.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE A GOOD PORTION OF IT WOULD GO THERE.

AND THEN FOR THE CREATION OF NEW UNITS, I THINK THEY'RE PROPOSING 250, THAT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME IF THAT WENT TO THE VERMONT HOUSING CONSERVATION BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S THE ENTITY THAT CHANNELS STATE HOUSING INVESTMENTS.

>> DARREN: NOW, THIS PLAN DOESN'T ENTIRELY DO AWAY WITH THE HOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM, WHY NOT?

>> BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SUPPLY OF PERMANENT HOUSING TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO.

THERE'S GOING TO BE THE A PERIOD WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO.

SHELTERS HAVE REDUCED CAPACITY IN ORDER TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE WITH PHYSICAL DISTANCE.

SO THERE'S A GROUP THAT'S GOING TO NEED MORE TIME WHILE THE PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS COMING ONLINE.

>> DARREN: LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE SHELTERS.

SOME EITHER SHUT DOWN OR, LIKE YOURS AT COTS, SERVING FEWER PEOPLE, AS YOU MENTIONED TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

ANY IDEA WHEN YOU CAN FULLY REOPEN?

>> BOY, IF I KNEW THAT ANSWER, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF PREDICTING THE END OF THE PANDEMIC, WOULDN'T IT?

WE ARE CLOSELY FOLLOWING VERMONT DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND C.D.C. GUIDELINES.

SO BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND OBSERVING IN TERMS OF TRANSMISSION AND THE INCIDENCE OF COVID, WE WILL LOOSEN UP, IF THAT'S WHAT THE DATA AND THE GUIDANCE INDICATES.

>> DARREN: RITA MARKLEY, THANK YOU.

STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY.

NEXT, GET A CLASS AT C.C.V. FOR FREE, THE GIFT TO GRADUATES FROM THE INCOME CLEUR FOUNDATION.

--

FROM THE MCCLURE FOUNDATION.

WE'RE BACK IN A MOMENT.

>> DARREN: WE'VE SEEN A SUDDEN SPIKE IN COVID CASES IN MANY STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

MARGARET BRENNAN, MODERATOR OF "FACE THE NATION" JOINS US TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING TO YOU.

>> DARREN: THANK YOU.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE RISING NUMBERS OF CORONAVIRUS CASES, WHAT DO THEY MEAN FOR THE STATES THAT ARE STARTING TO REOPEN?

>> WELL, THESE SPIKES ARE CONCERNING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT JUST TESTING RATES GOING UP.

THEY'RE ACTUAL HOSPITALIZATION RATES, THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK ENOUGH TO HAVE TO GO SEEK PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL HELP IN A HOSPITAL.

SO THIS SHOWS THAT THE VIRUS IS NOT JUST SPREADING, BUT THAT IT'S HAVING A SERIOUS IMPACT IN STATES THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD SEEMED TO BE NOT NECESSARILY AS HARD HIT AS THE EAST COAST HAS BEEN.

I'M THINKING OF TEXAS, ARIZONA.

AND IT'S INTERESTING TO WATCH HOW THIS PROGRESSES, BECAUSE IT KIND OF TESTS OUT THAT MODEL OF WHICH STATES DECIDED TO REOPEN AND WHEN.

WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH PAST THE POINT WHEN MANY OF THESE STATES STARTED REOPENING THEIR ECONOMY AND LETTING PEOPLE DO THINGS LIKE GO AND EAT AT RESTAURANTS OR AT LEAST OUTSIDE AT RESTAURANTS.

STATE BY STATE WE KNOW THAT VARIES.

BUT WE'RE SEEING NOW, PERHAPS, THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT PLUS THE LARGE GATHERINGS THAT HAVE STARTED TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

AND THAT'S THE OPEN QUESTION MARK, IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS SOME OF THESE PROTESTS, VECTORS OF TRANSMISSION, AS OUR GUEST REFERS TO THEM.

AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE FUTURE GATHERINGS LIKE THE POLITICAL RALLIES THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DECIDED HE WILL BEGIN HOLDING NEXT WEEK.

SO IT'S CONCERNING AND IT'S KIND OF ALL OF AMERICA PUTTING A TOE IN THE WATER AND SEEING HOW COMFORTABLE OUR COUNTRY IS WITH THE DEATH RATE OF OVER 1,000 PEOPLE A DAY AND RISING CASES.

IS THE COST OF REOPENING THE ECONOMY WORTH IT?

>> DARREN: SO LET'S DIVE DEEPER INTO THOSE PROTESTS YOU JUST MENTIONED.

WHAT IS CONGRESS DOING IN RESPONSE, ESPECIALLY FROM THE ONE FROM LAST WEEKEND?

>> WELL, IN RESPONSE TO THIS GROUND SWELL OF PUBLIC OUTCRY AND AS YOU'RE SEEING FROM CORPORATIONS' RESPONSE TO PUBLIC PRESSURE, EVEN LAWMAKERS HAVE SAID THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER FEDERAL LAW SHOULD BE CHANGED TO HELP STOP POLICE BRUTALITY, TO STOP ANY KIND OF SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT MAY EXIST, AND YOU KNOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HIMSELF TOLD ME THERE IS NONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THERE'S SOME VERY DIFFERENT POLITICAL OPINIONS, THOUGH, AND THAT IS WHY IT'S GOING TO BE SO INTERESTING TO WATCH HOW SENATOR TIM SCOTT, REPUBLICAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, IS ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS.

HE HAS BEEN CHARGED BY REPUBLICAN LEADERS WITH COMING UP WITH A BILL THAT WOULD SATISFY BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

MITCH MCCONNELL SAID SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND TIM SCOTT WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS AND IF IT MATCHES UP WITH WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS WILLING TO DO.

WILL THERE BE BANS ON THINGS LIKE CHOKE HOLDS?

EVEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE FEELS, WELL, HE DOESN'T LIKE THEM BUT THINKS THEY MIGHT BE NEEDED.

WILL IT BE A BAN ON NO-KNOCK WARRANTS?

YOU HAVE SEEN SOME REPUBLICAN SENATORS SAY THEY WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

OR ARE THESE RESTRICTIONS STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BE AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL COMING UP AND AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BACK STOP IS GOING TO BE STILL DEBATABLE WHETHER THAT'S EFFECTIVE OR NOT.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS ON SUNDAY, WE'LL ALSO HAVE CORY BOOKER, THE SENATOR FROM NEW JERSEY WHO HAS BEEN CRITICAL OF SOME OF WHAT TIM SCOTT IS LOOKING AT DOING BUT ALSO SAYS THIS KIND OF REFORM IS MUCH NEEDED.

>> DARREN: MARGARET BRENNAN, WE'LL SEE YOU LATER THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU'RE A GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR, YOU JUST GOT A FREE COLLEGE CLASS.

WHO GAVE IT AND WHY, CAROLYN WEIR FROM THE MCCLURE FOUNDATION IS HERE TO TELL US.

GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, DARREN, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> DARREN: YOU BET.

TELL US ABOUT THIS DONATION, THIS GIFT TO GRADUATING SENIORS.

>> WELL, WE HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS AND A HOPEFUL MESSAGE FOR THE VERMONT GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2020.

WE SEE THEM, WE SEE THEIR HARD WORK, WE SEE THEIR TALENT, THEIR POTENTIAL, AND WE WANT IT TO BE EASY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE EDUCATION AND TRAINING AFTER GRADUATION DAY.

ESPECIALLY IN THIS TIME OF UNCERTAINTY.

THEY REALLY DESERVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN COUNT ON.

SO YESTERDAY WE ANNOUNCED A GRADUATION GIFT TO EVERY MEMBER OF THAT CLASS OF ONE FREE COURSE OF THEIR CHOOSING AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF VERMONT THIS FALL.

EVERY GRADUATING SENIOR NO MATTER THEIR CIRCUMSTANCE WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE COURSE, AND OUR GIFT WILL COVER TUITION AND FEES.

>> DARREN: NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCE, YOU MEAN PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL OR SOMEONE WHO IS HOME SCHOOLED?

>> EXACTLY.

>> DARREN: ANY IDEA YET HOW MANY GRADUATES WILL TAKE YOU UP ON THIS?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND WE REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.

THERE ARE ALMOST 6,000 STUDENTS IN THE GRADUATING CLASS.

WE'VE MODELED OUT SOME BEST GUESSES, BUT AT THIS POINT WE ARE HOPING TO WAIT AND SEE IN SEPTEMBER, AND OUR BEST CASE SCENARIO IS THAT MANY STUDENTS SIGN UP FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THERE'S SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW ABOUT HOW COLLEGE WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE FALL, CHANGES IN FAMILIES' ABILITY TO PAY, AND WE CELEBRATE THE STUDENTS WHO KNOW THEIR PLAN IN THE FALL AND WE HOPE THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY ENCOURAGES THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO CONSIDER TAKING ONE COURSE AND KEEPING THAT MOMENTUM UP.

>> DARREN: HOW DO THEY GO ABOUT SIGNING UP TO GET THIS?

>> SO STUDENTS CAN ENROLL FOR A FREE COURSE OF THEIR CHOOSING, UP THROUGH SEPTEMBER 4TH.

RIGHT AT C.C.V.

C.C.V. HAS INFORMATION ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AT CCV.EDU/2020 GRAD GIFT.

AND THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ELIGIBILITY FOR THE COURSE.

FOR NOW I WOULD SAY THAT EVERY SEMESTER C.C.V. OFFERS MORE THAN 600 COURSES, SO THERE'S A LOT TO CHOOSE FROM.

AND IT OFFERS LOCATIONS WITHIN 25 MILES OF 95% OF VERMONTERS, INCLUDING A LOT OF ONLINE OPTIONS AS WELL.

SO IT'S AN ACCESSIBLE OPTION.

>> DARREN: WE WILL PUT THAT LINK RIGHT UP ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.

NOW, FROM A MONETARY STANDPOINT, WHAT'S THIS WORTH?

>> IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO TAKE US UP ON THE OFFER.

WE ARE COMMITTED TO HONOR THIS COMMITMENT EVEN IF ALL 5,000 SOMETHING STUDENTS WHO GRADUATE AS PART OF THE VERMONT HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATING CLASS TAKE US UP ON THE OFFER.

IF THEY DO, THAT COMMITMENT WOULD BE NORTH OF SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS GRADUATION GIFT KEEPS SOME ENERGY AND MOMENTUM FOR THIS CLASS IN THIS TIME OF UNCERTAINTY.

THEY HAVE SO MUCH TALENT TO OFFER THIS STATE, AND WE NEED THAT TALENT.

THE MCCLURE FOUNDATION HAS LONG HIGHLIGHTED VERMONT'S HIGH PAYING JOBS, LIKE NURSES AND CARPENTERS AND ELECTRICIANS AND GRAPHIC DESIGNERS AND ACCOUNTANTS.

AND C.C.V. OFFERS BOTH DEGREE PROGRAMS AND SHORT-TERM CREDENTIALING PROGRAMS THAT WILL LEAD TO JOBS.

SO IT'S OUR HOPE THAT EVEN ONE COURSE CAN HELP GRADUATES GET A JUMP START ON WHATEVER EDUCATION AND TRAINING PATHWAY IS RIGHT FOR THEM.

>> DARREN: IS THAT WHY C.C.V. AND BECAUSE SO MANY STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO C.C.V., AS YOU MENTIONED, PRETTY CLOSE.

>> YES.

C.C.V. IS READY TO SERVE THESE STUDENTS.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, THEY ARE AN ACCESSIBLE INSTITUTION, THEY ALSO SERVE AS A FIELDER TO MANY OTHER COLLEGES --

A FEEDER TO MANY OTHER COLLEGES BOTH WITHIN THE VERMONT STATE COLLEGE AND OUTSIDE OF IT AS WELL.

SO IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THIS ONE COURSE AS A GRADUATION GIFT CANNOT ONLY ALLOW AN EASY OPPORTUNITY FOR VERMONTERS TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION BUT WILL ALSO CONNECT THEM WITH A SUPPORTIVE ADVISOR AT A TIME IN WHICH THEY HAVE TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO THEIR HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELORS AND ADVISORS AND WHAT ARE REALLY UNANTICIPATED CIRCUMSTANCES GIVEN COVID-19.

>> DARREN: YOU MENTIONED 600 CLASSES TO CHOOSE FROM, IT CAN BE ANY CLASS OF THEIR CHOICE.

ARE THESE CREDITS TRANSFERABLE?

SAY IF ONE STUDENT WANTS TO TAKE THIS COURSE BUT THEN DO THEIR EDUCATION SOME PLACE ELSE.

>> YES.

BECOMING A C.C.V. STUDENT IS SIMPLE AND SO IS TRANSFERRING C.C.V. CREDITS.

C.C.V. HAS A NUMBER OF AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER COLLEGES THAT MAKE TRANSFERRING CREDITS EASY, PARTICULARLY TO INSTITUTIONS WITHIN THE VERMONT STATE COLLEGE SYSTEM LIKE VERMONT TECHNICAL, NORTHERN VERMONT UNIVERSITY AND CASTLE ON THE UNIVERSITY.

>> DARREN: JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS FOR THIS UPCOMING FALL SEMESTER ONLY, RIGHT?

>> EXACTLY.

>> DARREN: ALL RIGHT.

TELL US MORE ABOUT THE MCCLURE FOUNDATION AND ITS PHILANTHROPY, THE FOLKS BEHIND THIS GRADUATION GIFT.

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO.

THIS GIFT BUILDS ON ABOUT $400,000 THAT WE HAVE AWARDED IN 2020 SO FAR TO HELP MAKE THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING PATHWAYS TO VERMONT'S GOOD JOBS MORE ACCESSIBLE, MORE VISIBLE AND MORE AFFORDABLE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF VERMONT THAT WE ENVISION AS A FOUNDATION, IT'S A VERMONT WHERE NO PROMISING JOB GOES UNFILLED FOR LACK OF A QUALIFIED APPLICANT AND WHERE COLLEGE AND CAREER TRAINING AND COLLEGE AND CAREER TRAINING SYSTEMS REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO GREATER EQUITY AND GREATER RESILIENCE.

WE'VE BEEN AN AFFILIATE OF THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS AND THE PAST 12 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN EXCLUSIVELY FOCUSED ON MAKING EDUCATION AND TRAINING PATHWAYS TO GOOD JOBS MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR VERMONTERS.

THE MCCLURE FAMILY LAUNCHED THIS FOUNDATION 25 YEARS AGO.

AND THROUGHOUT THE PAST 25 YEARS, THE VALUES THAT HAVE GUIDED THIS FOUNDATION'S WORK HAVE REALLY STAYED THE SAME.

IT'S BEEN INSPIRING HOPE AND INVESTING IN WHAT THEY SEE AS VERMONT'S GREATEST RESOURCE WHICH IS ITS PEOPLE.

SO THIS GIFT FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THOSE VALUES.

IT'S A HOPEFUL MESSAGE, A PIECE OF GOOD NEWS IN THESE CHALLENGING TIMES, AND IT'S REALLY A COMMITMENT TO THE CLASS OF 2020.

WE HAVE SO MUCH HOPE FOR THIS CLASS, WE SEE SO MUCH TALENT IN THESE YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE KNOW THAT THEY MAKE A BETTER VERMONT.

>> DARREN: CAROLYN WEIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

STAY SAFE, OKAY?

>> THANK YOU, YOU TOO.

>> DARREN: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, EVERYBODY.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

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